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#1 tjugo

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:13 PM

Hi,

It looks like Orion is updating their website for an imminent launch of the EQ8 aka HDX110.

The specs of the HDX110 is 6 arcsec peek to peek of PE. Very interesting.

No price yet... :(

http://www.telescope...-with-Tripod...

Cheers,

Jose

#2 Ricky

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:17 PM

The Binostore has the Skywatcher EQ8 up for around $4500...so I expect Orion will price it pretty close.

#3 David Pavlich

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:01 PM

Looks like Celestron and Meade have a new kid on the block to contend with. How's the reviews been from Europe? The little I've read, there's been a few hiccups to overcome.

It looks like they've made it so there aren't too many cable snag points. That's the one thing I really didn't like about the CGE Pro...to many things sticking out to grab cables.

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#4 rmollise

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:05 PM

The mount is made by Celestron's parent corporation, Synta, which owns both SkyWatcher and Celestron. ;)

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:16 PM

The mount is made by Celestron's parent corporation, Synta, which owns both SkyWatcher and Celestron. ;)


An end to the CGE Pro, Rod? Since I have more time with the membership now, I need to do some catching up. Regardless of who makes the mount, its outward appearance looks pretty well thought out. The altitude adjustment is a major improvement over the Atlas. The azimuth adjusters look fairly pedestrian, but if the action is smooth and the take up on the adjusters is fine enough, it should make polar aligning fairly easy.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:50 PM

There is a long thread on IceInSpace on the EQ8; since the HDX110 is its twin brother it is probably all relevant.

I've heard of a few owners reporting the EQ8 DEC axis seizing; including on the EQ8 Yahoo Group a few weeks back and in the link above.

Now I'm not sure if these seized axis are from early adopters who got their mount from the initial batch produced. It could be that this issue is resolved now, I have no way of knowing that.

I almost bought one (the EQ8) back in November/December but opted for another mount/brand. The reported DEC axis seized had no baring on my decision though.

The DEC axis seizing aside on 2 reported case as far as I know, the EQ8 seems to be loved by their owners, the HDX110 should get the same love from future owners I would presume.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:50 PM

Who knows? But, 'twere it me, I wouldn't want to have to produce two entirely different mounts with similar specs...

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 12:32 PM

Apparently, the problems that have popped up in Europe is that the big worm thingy is not perfectly centered on the axis. They have worm slack at one end and worm too tight 180° away from that. No way to adjust it properly...

We'll see if it is an isolated incidence. I know of at least one good friend who returned it immediately and got himself another mount instead.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

Hi Jose,

The link you posted is no longer working, but I was able to find Orion's mount with pier tripod page HERE.

Orion must be getting close to offer it for sale. If you click on the "Videos" tab next to the "Images" tab near the top of the page at the above link, you'll find a six minute video about the mount. They also have web pages set up for selling the mount by itself, without the pier tripod and also for extra weights and the polar alignment scope.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:20 PM

That isn't a worm issue- the gear itelf isn't concentric with its axis. I have a DEC gear on my CGEM which is like this- if you take up the backlash on the loose side, it binds on the tight side. Some backlash must survive for the mount to work. Same factory, so I am not surprised. Ed Byers they are not.

-Rich

Apparently, the problems that have popped up in Europe is that the big worm thingy is not perfectly centered on the axis. They have worm slack at one end and worm too tight 180° away from that. No way to adjust it properly...

We'll see if it is an isolated incidence. I know of at least one good friend who returned it immediately and got himself another mount instead.

/per



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:04 PM

Hi Jose,

The link you posted is no longer working, but I was able to find Orion's mount with pier tripod page HERE.

Orion must be getting close to offer it for sale. If you click on the "Videos" tab next to the "Images" tab near the top of the page at the above link, you'll find a six minute video about the mount. They also have web pages set up for selling the mount by itself, without the pier tripod and also for extra weights and the polar alignment scope.


Hi Gary,

Indeed the link is broken, you can still watch the video in the link you pasted.

One member of my local astro group called Orion about the pricing and the answer was:

$3800 EQ head
$5000 EQ head + pier and accessories

We don't know exactly what is included for each price.

Cheers,

Jose

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:56 PM

If they want 5000 for it, they are high. Way high.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:09 PM

I'd personally spend 5000 for a CGE if you wanted a top grade mount. True? then you'd save 1000

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:23 PM

Looks like it's live on Orion's web now:
HDX110 plus accessories
and
HDX110 head

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:27 PM

indeed... finally the mount is ready... Now I need to start saving money!

Cheers,

Jose

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:30 PM

That isn't a worm issue- the gear itself isn't concentric with its axis. I have a DEC gear on my CGEM which is like this- if you take up the backlash on the loose side, it binds on the tight side. Some backlash must survive for the mount to work. Same factory, so I am not surprised. Ed Byers they are not.

-Rich

Apparently, the problems that have popped up in Europe is that the big worm thingy is not perfectly centered on the axis. They have worm slack at one end and worm too tight 180° away from that. No way to adjust it properly...

We'll see if it is an isolated incidence. I know of at least one good friend who returned it immediately and got himself another mount instead.

/per


I wonder why they didn't use spring loaded worms. That would at least solve the issue you described.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:33 PM

indeed... finally the mount is ready... Now I need to start saving money!

Cheers,

Jose



6 a/s Pk-Pk PE before PPEC? 110lb capacity? EQMOD compatible?

Good option to consider.

Personally if I was in the market for a big heavy mount again I would have to force myself to wait a couple of years. Would give me some time to start saving though.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:36 PM

Wow, $1200 for the tripod? No way Jose...

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:48 PM

And its in stock!

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:08 PM

Here is something interesting: when you look at the "In the Box" tab for the full up mount and tripod you get two of the big counterweights, but NOT if you buy just the GEM head. Weights will set you back $115 each...personally I think this is a bogus way to do business :4

Clear Skies,
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 07:15 AM

I'd personally spend 5000 for a CGE if you wanted a top grade mount. True? then you'd save 1000


A CGE Pro, maybe. A CGE? Not fraking liely. ;)

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 07:20 AM

At 5K, they are about 500 higher than Canadian dealers. Not bad, but not good, either.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:41 AM

I was hoping for $2500 with no tripod. At $5000 I'm spending a little more and just getting the Mach One, unless the CEM60 turns out to be a shinning star...

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 07:04 PM

so is orion saying this better than an AP mount. AP(1100GTO) mount is 7 arc seconds peak-to-peak?
if so, this is a steal

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 10:24 PM

It looks like you can just buy the EQ8 from Canada and save a bundle. In looking, it would run $4,200 + $135 shipping to me ($4,350 versus $5000 through Orion). The polar scope is cheaper as well.

An AC adapter would be cheaper through someone like Amazon. It looks like the Orion one just has a cigarette lighter adapter. A comparable one would be http://www.amazon.co...0_i01?ie=UTF... .

I would love to hear from someone using one of the mounts for AP.

Dan






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