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#1 Seiko4169

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 02:47 PM

Looks interesting...

Anyone got any more information?

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:17 PM

Seriously? I just ordered a Nexstar 8SE 3 days ago and now this ? If I would have known I would have definitely waited.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:27 PM

I'm not so sure yet. Unless you want the 9.25? OTA looks the same and still no vents? Shame.

Mount will be interesting, slew noise and accuracy. Worm gears should help.

Depends on the price for me.

It will be interesting where it fits in the product range from a price perspective.

Seems a little crowded to me.

I'm guessing...

Nexstar > Nexstar evolution > cpc > cpc deluxe

But will a HD version come along?

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:27 PM

I'm really interested in this one! I hope we get some more information soon

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:28 PM

From what I've read the major changes are:

Added wireless capabilities
Internal Battery Supply (Lithium - Ion)
USB plugs to power your devices
Manual clutches for both Alt and Az
Worm Gears
Improved motors
Includes an AC adapter
Accessory Tray

#6 Branskins

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:35 PM

What exactly are the wireless capabilities?

I wonder if it can pull the proper time from your device instead of needing manual input each time

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:45 PM

The wireless capabilities allow you to run it using a smart device. So basically just a built in SKYQ Link Wifi Adapter.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:50 PM

Let me in on the secret, What looks interesting????

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

All three models are up on Celestron's website. http://www.celestron...nexstar-evol...

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

Forget about my post. I found it.
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Posted 12 April 2014 - 05:21 PM

That is very cool. I am glad they finally added manual clutches and an internal clock. The OTAs look about the same other then the color.
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Posted 12 April 2014 - 05:29 PM

Seems like a lot of extra money for an internal li-on battery and a skyfi. Plus no hand control.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

Ugh. Duh! I'm and idiot. Why would you need a hand control when you have wifi and and iPhone/ipad.

Still...I think they are priced too high. They should have replaced the SE line with these at a higher price.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 05:58 PM

"NexStar Evolution includes a StarPointer finderscope, two 1.25” Plossl eyepieces, a 1.25” star diagonal, AC adapter, and optional hand control."

It looks like it does include the hand controller.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 06:29 PM

What exactly are the wireless capabilities?

I wonder if it can pull the proper time from your device instead of needing manual input each time


According to the Celestron Reps at NEAF YES it will pull time and location from the device (cell phone, tablet)

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 06:46 PM

I just got back from NEAF. I have to say its a much beefier mount and the 8" and 9.25" will come with 2" steel leg tripod for extra sturdiness... This is what I posted over in the CATS forum earlier today on this mount:

"Just got back from NEAF. Spoke with the celestron people about the new evolution mount. Will come in 3 configurations, 6" with the smaller tripod and 8" and 9.25" with larger 2" legs mount. It comes with a hand controller, but is meant to be used wirelessly with your smart device. Also the gears are brass and therefore you will not experience the same annoying backlash issues as with existing SE mounts. Another neat feature is enclosed lithium ion battery which is supposed to provide 10hr of use. So you will not need to bring power source as its embedded in the single fork arm. There are clutches on the azimuth and declination fork arm like the cpc which means you can move it manually, another nice feature. I lifted its beefy from 25lbs for the 6" to,46lbs to the 9.25". And yes, the 9.25" clears the base at zenith (barely)...

Celestron people were pumped about this product... Looks like the nexstar 6/8Se is going to be retired very soon... Oh by the way this enclosed battery and wifi capability is going to become a more integrated feature in upcoming celestron mount/scope packages..."

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 07:06 PM

Interesting, indeed! I just happened to see it this morning on the Celestron site (which is now down at the moment, no doubt thanks to you guys).

I've been looking for something lighter (or at least lighter individual pieces) than my big CPC1100, but more capable than my little 6SE. I really like the lightness of my 6SE, but it just doesn't have enough aperture, the backlash drives me to drink (i could almost have a drink or two in the time it takes to move in the opposite direction), and the lack of clutches is irritating.

I'll have to keep my eye on this new arrival. If i end up buying one, it sure won't replace my CPC1100 which i love, but it might save my back some strain when doing less formal viewing.

I hope the hand controller is standard, because palmtops/tablets/etc aren't yet a part of my starwatching retinue.

But now i'll have a quandary -- 8" or 9.25"?

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 10:34 PM

"NexStar Evolution includes a StarPointer finderscope, two 1.25” Plossl eyepieces, a 1.25” star diagonal, AC adapter, and optional hand control."

It looks like it does include the hand controller.


I'd read it as "the hand-controller is an optional item that you'll have to buy". As long as it's compatible with the current HC (other than the StarSense unit), I'm okay with that - used prices aren't all that bad.

imo after using CGE/CGEPro/SE/SLT mounts with either SkySafari or SkyQ, there are still many instances where I'll take the hand controller over a phone or tablet - imo it's just faster and simpler for quick setups and taking a peek - so much less tapping on a screen; besides the HC is quite though and you can just dangle it out of the way (haven't we all done that!) instead of having to find a place to set a phone or tablet down.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:13 PM

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I'd read it as "the hand-controller is an optional item that you'll have to buy".
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I'd definitely read it that way too.

Another good thing about the hand controller is that its battery lasts longer.

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 04:41 AM

Where's the app?

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 06:02 AM


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I'd read it as "the hand-controller is an optional item that you'll have to buy".
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I'd definitely read it that way too.

Another good thing about the hand controller is that its battery lasts longer.


I wasn't aware that the hand controller had its own battery??

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 07:08 AM

I think he means that the hand controller can run off the base without needing to have wifi on. There is no battery in the controller.

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 07:25 AM

just wonder if they will be selling the mount by itself without the OTA

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 07:43 AM

I think this shows that Celestron is listening to their customers! No battery and hc wires? Sign me up!

And furthermore.....if history is any indication and I certainly believe that it is then it stands to reason that the 9 1/4" model will be the one to avoid if a steady view is foremost for you. They may sell it but that does not mean it should be sold and there are plenty of examples in the current lineup to help slam home that tidbit.

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 08:38 AM

Did someone mention price? That's the key decision for me? Batteries and wifi are nice but don't mean that much to me on a personal level as they're simple accessories.

If the clutches allow the OTA to be moved and still keep the position that would be nice. I'd also want tube vents and quiet slewing?






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