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#1 meteorite

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:17 PM

Hello Everyone,

I called Astronomers without Borders today to inquire about the Celestron 80mm ED scope they are selling. I thought they had sold out but Mike informed me they have some left BUT their present inventory is likely all they will ever get from Celestron. For only $350.00 it is a great deal on a great scope. A fine, worthy cause as well. If you have been straddeling the fence on this scope, now might be the time to jump.

See it here:

http://store.astrono...oduct_info&a...

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#2 m9x18

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:40 AM

Thanks for posting this. It is indeed a great little scope. I have one of these and can recommend it highly as a nice little lightweight affordable grab-n-go.

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#3 Binojunky

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:53 AM

I picked up two of these, one for myself, the other for a friend,good scopes, other than replacing the finder scope for a red dot and the clamshell for a set of inexpensive rings mine gives fine views,DA.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:24 AM

I got me one. Everyone should have one, especially at this price. No problems with mine, and the views are indeed great. I'm still even doing ok with the stock focuser.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:57 AM

I love mine. I *did* replace the focuser, OTOH many feel no need to. Optically it's wonderful.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:58 AM

Yes, a fine set of optics for very little money. I dressed mine up a bit.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:13 PM

I'm tempted to snatch one of these, but I recently ordered a Vixen 80mm f/11.3 on sale. This Celestron 80ED from AWB would cost over twice as much as the Vixen, even at their sales price. But an equivalent 80ED would cost nearly twice as much as the AWB scope.

Too many scopes too soon. Maybe I could have the 80ED shipped to my office and keep it in the car until the coast is clear at home. I'm sure it's been done before!

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:16 PM

Mike,

I think that's one of the main reasons that Eyepieces are so popular; Real easy to hide:-)

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:17 PM

I hear you. I can relate to that!

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:19 PM

Thanks for the update.... it just cost me $350 :foreheadslap:

I kept wondering if it was too close to my AT72 and the C102, but what the heck....

EDIT: I'll be darned.... I just went back to take another look at the product page and it is gone.... I must have bought the last one :shocked:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:27 PM

On the other hand... an Orion 80ED with Crayford focuser would cost about $500. If I bought the AWB 80ED I'd probably want to upgrade the focuser. $150 for a drop-in Crayford? That brings the total price for the AWB 80ED up to around $500. So I might as well just wait and buy the Orion or equivalent when I get around to it.

See, what I'm trying to do is talk myself out of snagging the AWB scope. :thinking:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:29 PM

EDIT: I'll be darned.... I just went back to take another look at the product page and it is gone.... I must have bought the last one :shocked:


Thanks, Joseph! You saved me about $350 and an explanation to the wife. :sweat:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 02:11 PM

No problem, but who is going to help me explain it to my girlfriend?

I haven't mentioned the Atlas EQ-G that I have on order yet :crazy:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 02:24 PM

On the other hand... an Orion 80ED with Crayford focuser would cost about $500. If I bought the AWB 80ED I'd probably want to upgrade the focuser. $150 for a drop-in Crayford? That brings the total price for the AWB 80ED up to around $500. So I might as well just wait and buy the Orion or equivalent when I get around to it.

See, what I'm trying to do is talk myself out of snagging the AWB scope. :thinking:

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Having owned the Orion ED80 and now the Celestron I prefer the Celestron over the Orion any day.
The optics are the same but the Orion is built around a bigger tube, the dew shield is a push on and the focuser though a crayford is held in place by three sheet metal screws, also rings and a dovetail are not supplied or a diagonal, finderscope and eyepiece, then their is the cost of shipping.
On the Celestron you get a 45degree diagonal which will get you started, a clamshell with a built in dovetail, a nice straight through 6x30 finder and a Plossl eyepiece, shipping is free to your door.
Regarding focusers I prefer the R&P unit on the Celestron to the basic Crayford on the Orion, also in the case of the Celestron everything is screwed together, the dew shield to the lens cell, the cell to the tube and the focuser is screwed to the tube, its vastly superior construction wise than the Orion all for far less money , JMTCW, DA.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 03:46 PM

Just checked the website after getting home...... 80ED product pages are back up. One for American orders, one for Canadian orders.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:58 PM

In what way would the Orion 80ED be superior to the Celestron with, say, a dual-speed GSO focuser from Agena Astro for *still* less money?

Not to mention that, especially for visual, most people may find the R&P focuser to be adequate. The focusers are of rather inconsistent quality, the optics are uniformly excellent.

I'd say grab it while you can. If you dislike it, you can probably sell it for at least that much once AWB runs out of product.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:44 PM

Binojunky, Joe & Stelios,

Stop trying to talk me into it! :poke: I thought I was doing a good job of talking myself OUT of buying the 80ED! :mad:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:06 PM

Binojunky, Joe & Stelios,

Stop trying to talk me into it! :poke: I thought I was doing a good job of talking myself OUT of buying the 80ED! :mad:

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Mike:

I think Binojunky, Joe and Stelios are secretly trying to get you to buy the C80ED so you can join them in their misery. I can tell you this, I am not buying one, even though the price is totally amazing and the optics are indeed exceptional.

There are several reasons to avoid such a bargain.. First, it will lead you astray, you will soon be yearning a 4 inch apo.. and then you will find yourself secretly observing with your 80mm apo instead of your Dob. Your ST-80 will begin to feel lonely and neglected. You will be begin to wonder why all telescopes do not provide such perfect views.. It's a sorry path the Celestron C-80ED will lead you down.

I think the competition for the C80ED is a used ED-80 at $300 or so new versus used and a more svelte 90mm OTA, the Celestron has a lot going for it. The other alternative is not a new ED-80 at $500 but rather the SkyWatcher Pro 80mm at $650.. It's a lot of cash extra but for your $300 you get real tube rings with a dovetail, a good quality two speed Crayford (I have one on my 100mm F/6, it's sweet), a 2 inch dielectric diagonal, a case and a couple of eyepieces. That's the full outfit.

But you have an ST-80 with a Crayford focuser if I am not mistaken with a 2 inch diagonal and tube rings are about $30.. $350 for an 80mm F/7.5 apo, what is happening to this world??? Send back the Vixen A80MF, this will do everything that scope can do and more.. and in a smaller package..

I am not buying one because I already own a 80mm F/7 FPL-53 doublet... otherwise, I think it's a no-brainer.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:08 PM

Well, I hope you all are happy ... I ordered a C80 ED from AWB. The wife was OK with it. I wonder what she wants? :question: I'll find out soon enough ... :ubetcha:

I suppose this means I'm on the path to APO perdition. :mrevil:

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:26 PM

I think the competition for the C80ED is a used ED-80 at $300 or so new versus used and a more svelte 90mm OTA, the Celestron has a lot going for it. The other alternative is not a new ED-80 at $500 but rather the SkyWatcher Pro 80mm at $650.. It's a lot of cash extra but for your $300 you get real tube rings with a dovetail, a good quality two speed Crayford (I have one on my 100mm F/6, it's sweet), a 2 inch dielectric diagonal, a case and a couple of eyepieces. That's the full outfit.

But you have an ST-80 with a Crayford focuser if I am not mistaken with a 2 inch diagonal and tube rings are about $30.. $350 for an 80mm F/7.5 apo, what is happening to this world??? Send back the Vixen A80MF, this will do everything that scope can do and more.. and in a smaller package..

I am not buying one because I already own a 80mm F/7 FPL-53 doublet... otherwise, I think it's a no-brainer.

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I already have the 80mm tube rings and dovetail. They were originally for my ST80. But recently I installed a dovetail directly on the OTA. Now I can use them on the C80 ED.

And I already have a 2" diagonal. I probably won't upgrade the C80 ED to a 2" Crayford. R&P's seem to do alright for me in slowish scopes. The most I'll do is take the focuser apart, clean off the pancake syrup and relube it.

I have plenty of eyepieces and I have a case around here somewhere that will fit the C80 ED.

Accessories I don't need. Only the OTAs. Well, I don't really need them either.

My poor A80MF. Sold before I even receive it? It's due to be delivered tomorrow.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:01 AM

I got one a couple months ago. GREAT scope for the price. The only problem is there's not enough out-focus for the hand-grenade eyepieces like Pan 35, ES 30mm 82, or ES 20mm 100. Easy enough to fix if you don't slide the diagonal in all the way. I ordered a 2" extender from surplus shed.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 05:19 AM

I am planning to see how well the stock focuser can be tuned up before I work on replacing it. The GSO Crayford solution looks to be an economical alternative, but the adapter is no longer made. The only other alternative that I could find is the Moonlite, which at over $400 for a dual rate w/compression ring is more than the cost of the scope.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 05:40 AM

I got one a couple months ago. GREAT scope for the price. The only problem is there's not enough out-focus for the hand-grenade eyepieces like Pan 35, ES 30mm 82, or ES 20mm 100. Easy enough to fix if you don't slide the diagonal in all the way. I ordered a 2" extender from surplus shed.


Not enough out-focus is easily solved. It's not enough in-focus that's a bear. I don't want to saw off the end of the OTA and drill new retaining holes. I haven't done that yet for any scope, and I don't want to do it.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:01 AM

80mm will not lead you astray.

You know better.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:03 AM

It's sure is a fine scope and my most used!






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