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#1 JustaBoy

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

I was just looking at an 11yr old mini-review where the guy was comparing the 31mm T-5 Nagler to the 27mm and 35mm Pans.

Here is what he had to say about pricing:

"However the 31mm costs considerably more (currently $620 as of Feb. 2003) than any of either the 35mm Panoptic ($365) or 27mm Panoptic ($330)."

http://ejamison.net/...reviews2.html#2

I do remember this to be correct because I had bought a new 27mm Pan around this time, and that was the price.

Just go to the Dealer of your choice and look up the prices for today.

Surprising, in a good sort of way...

#2 Scanning4Comets

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 04:51 PM

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#3 JustaBoy

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:11 PM

I was just thinking of you, Markus, since you did say that you're going to be getting a 31 T-5.

Best of everything!

#4 junomike

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:42 PM

At the current price of $638, the 31T5 is a deal compared to 2003 as $620 back then is between $780 and $801 now!(depending on which inflation calculator you use)

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:33 PM

I almost died of shock when I read what this thread is about.
Just remember that "cheap" is a relative term.
A lot of people here are on fixed incomes.

Not that I disagree with the premise, however. I just finished the 2014 Buyer's Guide to Eyepieces, and a far larger number of eyepieces went down in price than went up. Inflation in the astronomy market doesn't seem to exist.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:11 PM

Just remember that "cheap" is a relative term.



My parents always made sure I understood the distinction between "inexpensive" and "cheap." But I also agree that "inexpensive" is also a relative term. When a very competent 12 inch Telescope is available for $700 and it includes a usable 30mm SWA eyepiece, $600 for a 31mm Nagler would not seem to qualify as "inexpensive."

That said, me, I am just "cheap", no two ways about it. :lol:

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

I thought the 84+ degree AFOV low power eyepieces were almost over priced until I saw how large they are. They are huge compared to normal eyepieces. No wonder they cost so much. I've not seen any pictures of 120 degree eyepieces, but I did see an eyepiece in another thread that had a 3 inch focuser barrel. I guess 2" was not big enough. That was just a 100 degree.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:13 AM

They're currently on sale for $629. That's 629 dollars, not Rupees isn't it? My born on date was in 2011 so I don't care what happened in 2003. Forget inflation. In 2014 $629 for one eyepieces is in no way "cheap" unless of course you're kidding.
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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:35 AM

I believe it would be hard for Televue to raise thier prices too much as the Meade and ES prices have dropped so significantly over the past 8 or 9 years.

They are sale now (Televues)...their prices did raise once or twice in the past 3-4 years. I remember all the moaning and growning on this site.

That being said I think they make good products. I've been happy with most of the ones I have tried. And the Plossls are fairly inexpensive (maybe not in comparison to other plossls). I think they are worth it. The other ones could be debated on worth. I do really like the 3-6mm zoom. Very handy and acts like many eyepieces.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:13 PM

"You get what you pay for" is a great saying and Televue makes a product that is excellent and they stand behind them for the life of the product. Worth every cent in my opinion!

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:22 PM

:waytogo:

Ok - Now do you have any comments, Mike:-)

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:24 PM

"You get what you pay for" is a great saying and Televue makes a product that is excellent and they stand behind them for the life of the product. Worth every cent in my opinion!


:waytogo:

Worth every cent to be sure... Just neither cheap nor inexpensive. :lol:

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:25 PM

Sometimes you get what you pay for, other times you pay a lot for what you don't need.

I like Televue, I own several TV eyepieces and I think that ES has changed the game. If doing a new setup from scratch, I would go all ES. The quality to me is so close that I would rather buy a larger scope or better mount than get the best or more perfect eyepiece. That's my opinion and that's what I would do.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:31 PM

Sometimes you get what you pay for, other times you pay a lot for what you don't need.

I like Televue, I own several TV eyepieces and I think that ES has changed the game. If doing a new setup from scratch, I would go all ES. The quality to me is so close that I would rather buy a larger scope or better mount than get the best or more perfect eyepiece. That's my opinion and that's what I would do.


Well, ES cloned the game, at least.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:50 PM

"You get what you pay for" is a great saying and Televue makes a product that is excellent and they stand behind them for the life of the product. Worth every cent in my opinion!


My opinion as well.

#16 Thomas Karpf

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:43 PM

I just finished the 2014 Buyer's Guide to Eyepieces...


Any idea when you will be posting it?

#17 Doug Culbertson

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:56 PM

I just finished the 2014 Buyer's Guide to Eyepieces...


Any idea when you will be posting it?


Here it is. Just open the attachment.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:13 PM

Thanks.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:26 PM

Just remember that "cheap" is a relative term.



My parents always made sure I understood the distinction between "inexpensive" and "cheap." But I also agree that "inexpensive" is also a relative term. When a very competent 12 inch Telescope is available for $700 and it includes a usable 30mm SWA eyepiece, $600 for a 31mm Nagler would not seem to qualify as "inexpensive."

That said, me, I am just "cheap", no two ways about it. :lol:

Jon


The other important distinction often ignored is "cost" vs "value."

My other hobby is photography. The most expensive telescope eyepiece price would put it in the low end if it were a camera lens.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:41 PM

My other hobby is photography. The most expensive telescope eyepiece price would put it in the low end if it were a camera lens.


Not really easy to compare an autofocus lens with image stabilization to an eyepiece. Although when those eyepieces come out, I would pay the premium.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:49 PM

I watched a "how it's made" for a camera lens. Talk about an impressive series of tasks and effort. I personally think they are worth the money after watching that.

I'm sure eyepeices would also be pretty impressive on the steps involved. But likely a lot less going on in comparison to a camera lens.

However, I agree the telescope hobby isn't really that bad cost wise (and certainly doesn't have to be). I've spent as much or more on my other hobbies (fly fishing, Motorcycling, Video games, etc).

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:29 PM

However, with regards to spending: once you are "equipped" in this hobby, you can enjoy it without having to spend more. Most of us do, but some of us simply use what we have and enjoy doing so.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:26 PM

"You get what you pay for" is a great saying and Televue makes a product that is excellent and they stand behind them for the life of the product. Worth every cent in my opinion!


Agree! I believe that TeleVue gives good value for the money. For people on a tight budget, Explore Scientific and other brands offer good options. I decided several years ago to move up and buy premium eyepieces. I added a few every few months. When I wanted a different eyepiece in the same focal length, I sold it, and bought a new one. We are fortunate to have so many good eyepiece choices spread across the price spectrum.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 02:05 AM

They sure ain't cheap, but if you think of the cost spread across the life of the object and the many, many years of use, then it seems like a fair price.

Having said that, I've not yet found the ability to pull the trigger on new TVs when the ESs are so well priced.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:45 AM

"You get what you pay for" is a great saying ...


:waytogo:

Ok - Now do you have any comments, Mike:-)


You really don't want me to go there :mad:... but alright, since you insist.

"You get what you pay for" is the worst saying ever. Think about it. In one instance I ordered an item, but the company had gone bankrupt, so I never received it. Did I get what I paid for? No, I did not. You do not always get what you pay for. QED

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