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#1 NorthWolf

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

Quick thought and question:

Would this be my best choice?

http://www.telescope...der/p/7211.u... angle finder

because this is a beast at 1 lb more

http://www.canadiant...estron-RACI-...

I want to change the red dot finder mostly due to the fact like I like to observe at zenith. I will miss the red dot though, I'm just not having luck aligning it perfectly 100% accurate and makes me get off my chair and on my knees at times. I also ordered a sol searcher, so not sure where I'm going to attach all this. Should I stick with the RDF?

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:18 PM

Personally, I prefer an optical finderscope over a red dot or a laser. When I ordered my NexStar 8 from Highpoint Scientific I purchased their brand of 8x50 finder with it.
The nice part about the Celestron finder is the illuminated reticle eyepiece. It aids in star alignment of NexStars, I think.

#3 NorthWolf

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:50 PM

It's 1.15lbs, can you at least use it to balance your scope, maybe by putting it in the frontwards area of the scope/OTA?

If no, did it install at least where the red finder is?

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:55 PM

You shouldn't need a finder on an SE after the initial alignment, which you definitely don't want to do around zenith...

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:39 PM

Let's say I order this one: http://www.telescope...der/p/7211.u...

Does it attach to the 6SE as is, or is there a bracket without needing to drill any holes for that?

Would you use Velcro, because I also need to attach a Televue Sol Searcher finder scope.

The 6x30 Right angle finder scope does not have a red dot, right? Perhaps a target reticle?

I think that one is the best option because it weights 0.5 lbs and is a right angle. Thanks.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

Is this the son of a gun that I need?

http://www.telescope...Base/p/7215.uts

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 01:55 PM

This one will also work.

http://agenaastro.co...er-bracket.html

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 02:12 PM

It's 1.15lbs, can you at least use it to balance your scope, maybe by putting it in the frontwards area of the scope/OTA?

If no, did it install at least where the red finder is?

I installed the finderscope in the same location as the red dot would go. It comes with its own bracket, and you can interchange them if you care to.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:23 PM

Hey Star Gaze, thanks, do you find it's too heavy for the mount? If I use 1-2lbs of more equipment in the eyepiece holder plus the 9x50 finder scope, do you think it's a bit too heavy for our scopes? I like the fact that it fits right in there where the red dot finder is.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:34 PM

Hey what about this one? http://www.ebay.com/...er-Scope-wit...

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:03 PM

Although the price is cheap, the base only fits a Sieben scope. I could only use it on my refractors with a hose clamo.
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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:23 PM

I like the Orion raci 6x30, nice wider fov then 50mm, I velcro a lightweight red dot to the finder stalk, just wrap around and around.
not pretty but works for me, why don't someone make one of these
set ups? Combo finder? Orion sells a dual finder mount but looks like too much
by the time finder and red dot are attached.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 08:23 PM

Dave I like the idea, if you have time take me a picture so I can try and do the same. Where di you get those velcros from?

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

The Orion 6x30 finder works well. Just order the Orion finder scope bracket made for SCTs. The bracket will attach to the rear cell of your NexStar using the same holes the bracket for the red dot finder does.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:36 PM

Hey Nippon, sounds great, 2 things does the height of the 6x30 bother you, it seems taller than the other finder copse, and can you still keep the red dot finder on at the same time?

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 02:29 PM

Somewhere on here (show off your NexStar I think) I saw someone who mounted their finder off to the side, attached right to the dovetail on the OTA.
By using an extended stalk the finder is located to the outside of the arm.

I found the post, it's in Show off your NexStar and it's by user bcuddihee on 02/01/13.
Looks like a good idea to me.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:41 PM

Here's an idea for you to try. The mount is an ADM saddle block.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:51 PM

I need a right angle finder that will go directly into where the current stock red light finder *BLEEP* is attached too :),(which by the way, I may Velcro afterwards, if that's possible, it's very useful on a fast slew when you don't have to bend your head). I'd like to keep both, but I think now I will put an 8x50 celestron finder instead of a 6x30 since it's shorter and to give a bit more weight on the ota to balance what I may want to put in the focuser.

Can a Celestron RACI (8x50) fit directly to the bracket where the red laser finder is?

I don't think I can use the height of that 6x30, thanks for showing the picture! Green lasers are outlawed here. Go figure.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

Do you have the option of getting this 6x30 finder scope the same size (height wise) as the 9x50?

http://www.highpoint...-image-finde...

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

Well It's either one of these finder scopes, maybe the hight point one is best for weight and size, I like how the Celestron looks though, as if it would just "lie" down on its belly right on the OTA. Seems more sturdy and might balance better. It's also a 1/4 of a lb heavier.

http://www.highpoint...ket-8x50-by-...

http://www.highpoint...ted-finder-s...

Someone flip a coin for me!

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:54 PM

I just ordered this finder, I think it's great, I hope I can just slide it where the red dot is, and Velcro the rlf somewhere close by, I'm liking this setup.

http://www.celestron...accessories/...

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:24 PM

Hey, what to make of this? I can't install the finderscope :lol:

 

Where will the dovetail go? I took off the red light finder, I unscrewed 2 screws to do that, and now have 2 small metal pieces and the 2 screws that bind them together, plus new finderscope, where and how do you put everything.

 

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:21 AM

Hi NorthWolf,

 

Sorry I didn't get to this thread sooner or I would have warned you that finder is for the big CPC scopes.  Part of the weight is just all that mass in the fancy ring/mounting shoe combo. That smaller one with the mounting shoe from Agena (or Orion, although you'll pay more) would have worked fine for you.  I've put those on every scope I own and can easily swap between various finders and laser holders.  Not sure if you can send the other back, but it might be worth trying.  It does look like what you bought came with the mounting shoe, presumably so you could put it on the opposite side of the OTA from the straight through that comes with the CPCs (although why you'd want to I'm not sure).  A RA finder is a nice addition, and something the size of what you have isn't bad for a low cost wide field view on occasion.  However, if you're looking just for something to make alignment easier, then I'd recommend a GLP with the appropriate holder and shoe.  While you obviously have to take the appropriate precautions, and be considerate and star parties, a GLP makes aligning a snap.

 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 09:00 AM

On the original question, my vote is for the Orion 6x30 RACI. That's what I use on my C6 and all my small grab-n-go scopes.  The 6x30 RACI works well with a QuikFinder.

 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

Well I mailed the 9x50 back today and ordered a 6x30 a few days ago, no point in waiting anymore.

 

I will attach the 6x30 where the red light finder was, and I'd like to attach with Velcro the Red light finder somewhere, any ideas where to put that one?








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