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#1 CA Curtis 17

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

I am researching the history of astro video cameras and would like to know when the Samsung SDC 345 and SBC 2000 cameras first appeared. These seem to have been popular Samsung cameras used in video astronomy. I see posts back in 2009 and 2010 on this and other forums, but I think the cameras first became available around 2001. Perhaps there were earlier Samsung cameras that were popular as well.

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#2 David B in NM

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

Curtis,

Perhaps my memory is failing. I believe the first camera to debut for Samsung was the SDC 425 (yes 425 had sens-up of 256) in the early part of 2009.

The SDC 435 followed after that in the Spring of 2010.

I believe the SCB 2000 was released in the Summer of 2011 along with the SCB 4000.

The SCB 2001 was released about in the early Winter/Spring of 2012.

Those were the main Sammy models that have been recommended in the forum over the years as far as I can recall.

I don't believe there is any recorded use of a Sammy prior to the 425 in 2009.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:20 AM

Email Samsung Techwin and ask them. I'm sure they keep records of Manufacturing and release dates.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:35 PM

David,

Thanks for the information. For some reason I thought I read something indicating 2001, but from what little I have found on the internet, I do not see anything before 2010, in line with your memory.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 09:06 AM

A quick search of the CN archives shows me that late 2007 was the first mention of using a Samsung video camera in the EAA forum. There could be other comments in other forums earlier than that.

I think you'll find that Samsung video cameras have been used for astronomy since at least the mid 2000s.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 09:42 AM

Mark,

I wanted to validate my memory, since your post caused me to question my first post to this thread. :question:

Perhaps this is the post you are talking about. It references a Samsung camera used as a finder. There's no reference as to the model.

Planet and Double Star Setup

The next reference for a Samsung Camera is for the SDC-425ND. It had sens-up of 256x.

Brief Reference of 425

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More Detailed Reference of 425

I searched the old VEAA Archieves just now and found the links above. I went back 10 years and the first reference of a Sammy being used for anything in the Forum is the first link above (as a finder). You are correct it is 2007. My search didn't find a Sammy being used for DSOs until 2009 though (425).

Added: I'd guess the model used as a finder in the first link above was the SDC-415. It had a sens-up of 128x and was released in 2007.

Specs for SDC-415

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:32 AM

David,

I think we're on the same page.

The first use of the Samsung video cameras for astronomy were on solar system objects ... primarily the moon. As the early cameras were released with longer integration times (128x) I think folks quickly noticed that there was now enough sensitivity to show reasonably faint stars (for use as a finder) and the brighter DSOs (core of M42, M13, M57, etc.) through a telescope.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:11 AM

It never hurts to search for the facts from the company:

The SDC-425 complied with Licensing Conformity on March 21,2008 for commercial release: Scroll down and open Certification tab for file HERE

The SDC-435 followed by gaining compliance on - June 18, 2009: Scroll down and open Certification tabe for file HERE

When manufacture moved from 'Samsung Techwin Co Ltd' in China to 'Tianjin Samsung Techwin Opto-Electronics Co' in China in 2010 the Tianjin Opto-Electronics model names were changed.

The SDC-435 became the SCB-2000
The SCC-A2333 became the SCB-4000

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 11:16 PM

Ken,

Thanks for the great detective work. I believe the SCB4000 was their first 1/2" format camera. Any idea when that one first appeared?

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:11 AM

Yes Curtis. The SCB-4000 was originally called the SCC-A2333 (which is the one I have).

The PAL version of the SCC-A2333 (along with other PAL models) was tested and complianced in January 2009 for commercial release, followed by the NTSC version in July 2009.

Here is the Compliance certificate: HERE

Then the SCB-4000 version of the SCC-A2333 was complianced in May 2010 in both PAL and NTSC at the same time, with different compliance certificates and testers (probably because of different compliance conditions in different PAL & NTSC Standard countries).

Here is the PAL compliance, 3rd May 2010: HERE

Close up of model and date: HERE

and this one is the Compliance for the NTSC model: HERE

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 05:06 PM

Hey...some of this seems a little familiar :-) Lets see- I think this is correct so far but timing may be a little off- I think the mention of the sdc-415 as a finder was the first, then there was another guy on the forums before me that was testing the sdc-425 which inspired me to pick one up-and I think this was actually late 2008, but spent a bit of time figuring out the settings etc- didn't discuss much until 2009 which was when I got the sdc-435








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