Quote:Wandering are there any areas in the continental US that have zero light pollution meaning the night skies are as they were 1000 years ago or is everywhere affected by man made light pollution even if it is to a micro degree?
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Quote:I concur with Tony, there is simply no location in the lower 48 that is absolutely pristine with regard to absolute darkness as would have been encountered here a millennium ago.
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Quote:Go offshore. It's technically still U.S. property and there's ZERO light pollution especially when you darken the ship. It's amazing how bright the natural starlight gets.
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Quote:They really have gone all out for this- you will be able to reserve it for like $50/ night and camp there with your RV and have it all to yourself or for your group.
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Quote:The zodiacal light, gegenschein, and zodiacal band are all visible — the zodiacal light to a striking degree, and THE ZODIACAL BAND SPANNING THE ENTIRE SKY.When you actually see conditions such as this it truly leaves the observer in awe of the night sky's true appearance. I've encountered such a couple of times in the distant past and talked with some other very experienced observers from far flung corners of the earth who have seen it too...but not any in many years now and certainly none in the U.S.A.
Quote:According to the new light pollution atlas (when I plot more contours below the current lowest black/dark gray contour), the darkest area in the lower 48 US (at zenith) is southeast Oregon and northwest Nevada. The center of this dark region is in Oregon maybe about halfway between Sheldon National Antelope Refuge and Steens Mountain. The next darkest area in the lower 48 is Big Bend National Park, particularly the southeast part.
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Quote:Now you got me thinking of 'road trip'!!!
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Quote:However, I would point to the lead sentence from the origin published description defining some particular features of that class of sky conditions that never seems to be cited by the observer touting their location:
"The zodiacal light, gegenschein, and zodiacal band are all visible — the zodiacal light to a striking degree, and THE ZODIACAL BAND SPANNING THE ENTIRE SKY."
When you actually see conditions such as this it truly leaves the observer in awe of the night sky's true appearance. I've encountered such a couple of times in the distant past and talked with some other very experienced observers from far flung corners of the earth who have seen it too...but not any in many years now and certainly none in the U.S.A.
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Quote:Quote:Now you got me thinking of 'road trip'!!! No need to go out west...Dark Sky Finder plots darker skies than Cherry Springs PA (blue zone) in the heart of the adirondack park in NY near Blue Mountain Lake. Wakely Dam and Browns Tract inlet, both coded gray zone...not bad for the NE! Been there and it is indeed DARK!
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Quote:those places you mention in the Adirondacks,Blue Mountain Lake. Wakely Dam and Browns Tract inlet, is there camping in those locations and some open horizons?
Quote:Quote:those places you mention in the Adirondacks,Blue Mountain Lake. Wakely Dam and Browns Tract inlet, is there camping in those locations and some open horizons? Yes there is...at the Dam (primative), at Browns tract campgrounda(prepared campsites) and at Great Camp Sagamore(private run lodge with amenities). Camp Sagamore actually encourage "stargazing" in an open field behind the grounds. Plenty of choices for a level of comfort that you desire all in the gray zone, 7.1 to 7.5 mag unaided. Here is a Wakely Dam Campsite map... Wakely