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First and foremost observing love: naked eye.
Last but not least, telescopes.
And I sometimes dabble with cameras.
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Quote:The AP process is just too far removed from real astronomy.
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Quote:Seems like now that I can "see" so much more via AP I have really not much interest in visual observing except for planetary.I'm not a very good imager yet - but even raw/unprocessed shots can show so much more than a visual observation...Am I alone here in not really having a desire to go back to visual?Just curious if this is common..
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Quote:Interesting.. very interesting...I think my point comes from a jaded standpoint - I was on the "aperture" quest for years... Then one night last fall I took some shots, just for fun... and in seconds - literally - I was seeing things I had been searching for, for years! M51 was elusive to me - I was it directly one time back in 98 or 99, and never since - even though I hunted for it all the time... maybe I'm just not a very good observer... but that was the turning point for me.There are some targets I do enjoy visually - Orion obviously, M57, M13 and the other clusters... So maybe I was a bit harsh in my initial statement...Also - I'm not planning on being the guy who has a crazy rig with a tone of equipment and alignment nightmares... I decided to go hyperstar and keep my exposures under 1 minute.... maybe even mallincam one day.So - maybe "abandon" was too strong of a word - lets just say your primary focus shifted from visual to AP..I'm just glad my quest for more aperture is over... that was not fun.
14" Meade LX850 80mm Meade 6000 ED APO 90mm Meade ETX 60mm Focal (First Telescope) Orion MiniGiant 9x63 Mallincam Xtreme EXview HAD Canon 5D Mark II Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Quote:I dabbled in astrophotography years ago and found it to be somewhat frustrating. I remember setting for hours patiently guiding the scope, only to have my efforts ruined by someone in an automated photo lab. This sent me down the path of setting up a darkroom, which was another (expensive) exercise in futility. All in all, I found life to be much easier as a purely visual observer. I do have to admit that my efforts at astrophotography weren't all bad. I did manage a few moments where I experienced limited success. Still, for the most part, it was not what I anticipated. Now that I see the results people are achieving with digital photography, I've been thinking about giving it a try once again. This time, however, I'm approaching just a little slower. I've been a visual observer for so long now, and I've learned to appreciate subtle details that only a visual observer can see. So, even if I do manage to conquer astrophotography, I don't ever see giving up the purely visual experience.Bill
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Quote: I enjoy tweaking precision equipment to make it perform at its best, I enjoy the software challenges (I'm a bit of a computer geek), and I really enjoy the art of bringing an image out of the background noise.
Quote:Books on tape ruined me for braille...
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Quote:Quote:Books on tape ruined me for braille...
I assume you're joking, but the statement is worth examining in more detail.
Books on tape have their place, but they will never replace conventional reading, whether with your eyes or braille. People fluent with braille can read at least as fast as sighted people, easily four or times faster than you can absorb words with your ears.
Quote:I hope my original post didnt come across as bashing visual observing
Quote:Interesting responses - although I think I should to a test and post the same message in the "AP" section. I hope my original post didnt come across as bashing visual observing - frustration - yes, I definately have that going in regard to visual, but a lot of that stems from my location and sky quality I'm sure... I'm also not a very patient person, so I just am not the kind of person who will hunt for an object for hours - even though I have in the past... Seems like that last statement is counter intuitive for AP, right? Most AP'ers spend hours and hours on one subject... Not really - since I'm not saying I'm about the processing side as I just like the extra detail I can get via a CCD..I'd be curious to see if anyone has ever made a correlation between a CCD exposure time/F ratio and a visual observation via a scope of X size? Maybe you need a 16" scope to equal a 3 second CCD exposure at ISO1600 and F10 or something...
14" Strut; 10"XT; 102ES; 22 in Process; 3.5,5,7,10,14,20mm Pentax XW; 17.3 & 12mm Delos; 27mm Panoptic; 20&24mm ES 68; 24mm ES 82; 30mm ES 82; 6&10mm BCO;