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Quote: I have one on the way. Can't remember, but I think I signed up in late 1995!
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Quote:The offer letter from AP says the first will ship in July and they will continue to ship throughout the year. They are offering the scope to the 180 f7 and 180 f9 interest list first, this list dates from 1995-2001.
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Quote:Question? Do people (like yourself) update their personal information to Televue and If so how?I don't see ever wanting to get on a 20yr list, but I'm sure If I did, I probably wouldn't have the same contact Info as I do know. Heck, back in '95, those that did have the Internet had "dial up". I'm sure people's emails have changed over the years and with the influx of Cell phones, a lot of "land lines" are becoming obsolete as well.Just Curious?Mike
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Astro-Physics 175EDF | AP1100GTO | ATS Portable Pier
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Quote:Interesting for sure. When was his 180 made?What are they charging for these?
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Quote: I'm wondering how AP arrived at the 175's price of $19.8k? Did he use his usual manufacturing formula or is there an added premium to take away a fast reselling profit? I'm sure this scope would resell immediately at a 50% premium.
Quote:Roland told me these were a one run and done- then back to making AP130s. -Rich
Quote:Quote:Roland told me these were a one run and done- then back to making AP130s. -Rich Any idea how many scopes?
Quote:Vahe, I'd agree if these scopes were going to be available as a production item. However, to my knowledge this is a "very" limited run and when the blank are gone, he's done with these. Someone correct me if the know different. That said, I still agree and very much respect that these interments are being made at all and are priced where they are.
At this point used AP180's can fetch between 25-30k. Even 26-27k bids are not meeting current reserve prices. I expect the first AP175 to be sold used will go for 35-40K. Perhaps higher in an auction. However, most of the folks on that list that are still into this hobby and are interested enough to come up with an unexpected 20k for something the ordered 18 years ago, are most likely NOT going to part with it for the time being. Which, is a good thing. I know of one, who said - "this is a lifetime scope, I waited a lifetime and that's how long I'm keeping it."
Quote:so we have 4 people on this thread getting 175's? very exciting! TEC has said there is strong demand for their 180's as well. These are amazing amateur telescopes! To me it's like seeing a famous artist cranking out more masterpieces. Even if I'll never have one, I might get to enjoy one at some point, just like seeing an art exhibit.
Quote:The AP wait lists have been good to me. I have a last model run of every telescope since and including the Stowaways.This will plug the gap nicely between the 160 and the 180 EDF
Quote:As far as AP 130's I think someone posted a photo of serial #300-and-something recently, I would assume they've made 300+
Quote: In the 175EDF offer letter mailed to me it asks that a receiver of a new 175EDF not resell it for quick profit.
Quote:Quote: In the 175EDF offer letter mailed to me it asks that a receiver of a new 175EDF not resell it for quick profit. Has Mr Christen commented on his reasoning for this? Im just curious as to why he cares. If I waited almost 20 years for a scope Id like to think I could do whatever I wanted with it once it was mine. (not that Id let something like that go, but if someone who didnt wait on the list wanted it bad enough to pay more than 20K, why shouldnt they get to?)
Quote:Because perhaps he feels that as these are the last big scopes he will make, he wants to ensure they are going to folks that waited and now will enjoy them. Not exploit them to make money. He could just as easily have asked the market value they are worth and had people pay 35-40k for them new. He didn't even if it is his ability and attention to detail that warrants the high hight. Maybe it's because he cares about his work and wants it to be affordable so people can enjoy it. Maybe because he feels if he isn't going to exploit his talent you shouldn't.IDK, it is your money........Joe
Quote:There's probably a handful of people around the world that would bid up a 175mm to the sky, but how long would it last? TEC has announced another run of 180's, that is probably enough for vast majority of people. It's already f/7 for imaging and has a reasonably-priced flattener. I see that the 180 is quite a bit lighter as well, which is attractive to many buyers.so we have 4 people on this thread getting 175's? very exciting! TEC has said there is strong demand for their 180's as well. These are amazing amateur telescopes! To me it's like seeing a famous artist cranking out more masterpieces. Even if I'll never have one, I might get to enjoy one at some point, just like seeing an art exhibit.As far as AP 130's I think someone posted a photo of serial #300-and-something recently, I would assume they've made 300+