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Quote: but since AP has a years-long waiting list I wonder if it's worth just signing on.
Ray Teeter 18" f/3.5 Dob D&G 5.375" f/20(?) refractor 天体観測にも威力を発揮する、本格仕様の大口径双眼望遠鏡です。 興和ハイランダー
Quote:I think what is "best" is an almost impossible determination to make - or even a question to take very seriously. Are they "among the best" refractors in terms of optics, mechanics, and performance specs? Sure. But what is best for one may not be best for another for reasons you are going to read a lot about as this thread proceeds..... High resale value may be the least contestable reason to call them "best", but also the least important reason to me as someone who buys a scope to use it (and keep it). And yeah, I have a couple of AP refractors and I'm content with saying they are the best for me in their respective aperture classes.As for the A-P notification list there is absolutely no reason - nada - not to put your name on every list that they maintain. By doing so you have no obligation to purchase a scope and no deposit needed to join the list. You might as well even sign up for scopes you think you can't afford now - maybe the lottery or an inheritance from a long lost Uncle will come in during the 10 years or so it takes to get the notification. At that point you can agree to purchase and put down your 50% or just say no thanks. It is really a no brainer.
What some may view as an argument I view as a different perspective.
Takahashi FS78 AP 92mm F7 Stowaway AP 130mm F6 EDFs AP 155 F7 EDF AP 175 F8 my new baby AP 10 inch Mak AP 400 QMD AP 1200 Goto CP3
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Quote:Will you get a call for a Roland finished product in 5-10 years? Who knows.
Jeff Morgan - Wile E. Coyote School of Telescope Making
I lost count of my scopes. Now I just want mobility. I came, I saw, I bought some interesting accessories, and put names to faces: NEAF 2012, ASAE 2012, SWAP 2013, ASAE 2013.
Quote:Yes they do (and did) have a waiting list, but there are at least 5 of them on Astromart right now. Anyone can buy one today. Quote: but since AP has a years-long waiting list I wonder if it's worth just signing on.
Quote:AP has a strong reputation in mounts. Are they the king of refractors too? I thought that TEC and Takahashi were also considered the same top tier. But the AP 130 costs more than the TEC 140! Am I missing something? Or is there another brand that's the best? I'm referring to optical quality as well as resale value.
Kmart 40mm-Thanks Mom|Jason60mm-Thanks Dad|C80SS-Thanks Wife|C90|C102|C6XLT|AP130EDFGT|C-11XLT EQ-2|EQ-3|CG5GT|Mach 1 & Eagle "For once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return".-Leonardo da Vinci "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."-Oscar Wilde ~RIP Dad, you were my best friend...Godspeed!~
Time spent looking at the stars is added to your life
Bashful, Misty, and little Ralphie - my heavenly stars
A-P 105 Traveler ~ TEC 140 ED ~ TEC 6 MCT
A-P Mach1 GTO ~ Losmandy GM-8 ~ TV Gibraltar
Quote: My favorite story about Roland is one he told himself. It seems he was at a Star Party and someone had something he really wanted. The deal he made was to trade one of the latest production run scopes for this particular item. However, his wife, Marj, nixed the deal, telling him, he didn't have a place in line for the scope...
http://www.astrobin.com/users/orion69/ TS 150 mm APO Triplet, Feather Touch 3.5" focuser, Micro Touch Focusing System CGEM on custom made platform Atik 383L+ mono, Atik filter wheel, Baader LRGBC + narrowband filters SX Lodestar + TSOAG9 Dew-Not heater
Too many clouds
Whenever I have come into large sums of money in my life, I always put half of it aside to spend on fast cars and the pursuit of loose women.
I put aside the other half to spend frivolously.
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.
Quote:Not only that, but the aspherizing and design of these intruments often produce results that are capable of producing pinpoint and color free star images right to the corners of the biggest CCD cameras normally used by amateurs.
And since astro-imaging is far more demanding than visual use (the eye is simply not a very good detector) and the APs still produce the finest wide field images, with color free stars that are aberattion free and pintpoint right to the corner of the biggest chips, I would argue that the AP is still the best brand money can buy.
7x35 and 10x50 sears tower binocs, 3" f/10 edmunds reflector, 2.4" f/11.7 manon refractor, 6" f/8 jaegers refractor, 10" f/11 R30 Istar refractor, 3" f/15.8 sans&streiffe refractor, 3.1" f/15 selsi refractor(towa 339), 2.4" f/15 sears refractor, selsi 30x30mm spyglass, criterion 5-draw 25x45x75x spyglass(1957), 4.25" f/14.8 tasco 20te.http://cleardarksky.com/c/OmahaNEkey.html
Clear skies, Erik
Visual astronomer since 1978.
Matthias Wirth 16" f/5
Takahashi FS-102 NSV on EM-10
Celestron 1983 C5
Zeiss, TeleVue and Celestron eyepieces
Nikon 18x70 IF-WP Zeiss Victory FL 7x42 Zeiss Victory FL 10x32
Quote:I have dreamed of owning an AP for a long time. Once I did, I only want to get rid of it and never buy one again.
Yes, they are good, but they are not worth the money people are paying second hand, I just can't understand that.