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Quote:In other words are you a serious observer that buys the best pinpoint stars, the best transmission in order to absorb the last photon of light of that faint nebula or galaxy or are you the one who gets aperture fever to see how that eye candy object looks like with the bigger aperture and magnification?
SLAP Observer --- TMB130SS, SV102V(LOMO Lens), SV80ED Deluxe "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke. "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell "The measure of a man’s greatness is not determined by what he accomplishes for himself, but by what he accomplishes for others.” -- Some Bald Guy
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Quote:When you buy a binocular what of the two of the above conditions do you think about, spending not much money knowing that if you lost what you bought, you should not care, or being picky about optics and spending thousands of dollars to have the best optics that your money can buy and keep it?
Quote:In other words are you a serious observer that buys the best pinpoint stars, the best transmission in order to absorb the last photon of light of that faint nebula or galaxy or are you the one who gets aperture fever to see how that eyecandy object looks like with the bigger aperture and magnification?
First and foremost observing love: naked eye.
Last but not least, telescopes.
And I sometimes dabble with cameras.
"The heavens declare the glory of God"...
Binos: APM100 | Obie 20x80D3 | Resolux 15x70, 7x50 | Nikon AE 12x50, 7x35 | FMT-SX 10x50 | Canon 10x30 | Vanguard ED 8x42
Mounts: AVX | Orion Paragon | Tecnosky eLLe
Telescopes: XT8g | AT6RC | Onyx 80EDF | 102GT | ST80
1.25" EPs: Hyperion 8, 17mm | ES68º: 20, 24mm | ES82º: 4.7, 6.7, 8.8, 11, 14mm
2" EPs: Meade 5k 82º: 24, 30mm | ES100º: 5.5, 9, 14, 20mm
Quote: For me, "good enough", is.I prefer to invest $100-200 each in a handful of average to above-average binoculars that provide different capabilities (magnification, FOV) vs. taking that sum and investing it in one premium binocular that is a "compromise" in terms of capability.
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* Celestron NS11 GPS - Stellarvue Raptor 90mm APO* Vixen Ultima 8X56 - Fujinon 10X50 FMT-SX - Nikon 7X50 ProStar - Vanguard Endeavor ED 8X42 - Nikon Action Ex. 7X35More cowbell please!
So this cabbie says: "Know who I had in this cab last week? Bertrand Russell! Wisest man in the Western World. And I says to him 'Bertie, what's it all about?' And do you know, he couldn't tell me..." Kenneth Williams
Vanguard Endeavor ED 8x42 & 10x42 binos / Vanguard Endeavor HD 82mm (20-60x) angled spotting scope / Vanguard Abeo 283AT tripod with PH-114V head
the very source and font of day is dashed with isles of wandering night--Tennyson
Quote:Personally, if I had the money to buy any of those listed, I'd choose the Nikon AE 10x50 (13th on the list).
Quote:When it comes to the very best binoculars some of them are 'rated' very close to one another. Here's just one example:http://www.optyczne.pl/ranking_optyczne_pl-ranking_lornetek-10x50.htmlBased upon price, which one would you buy?Stan
The night sky is the canvas....
My optics are the brush....
The Milky Way is the masterpiece
reductio ad absurdum of epistomology is solipsism....
Quote:Stan - I'd still go for the Fuji.
6"f15 D&G, 6"f5 Jaegers.
TSA 102, TV60.
Docter 15x60, 10x50.
Scopes: Celestron 9.25, Orion 80MM and 120MM EON Apo
Solar: Lunt LS60THa/PT/B1200/50DS
Binos: Canon 15X50 IS Mounts: CGEM and LXD75
Eyepieces: Explore Scientific, Meade & TeleVue
Camera: DMK 41, Canon 6D, SBIG STT-8300
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Quote:The thing such sites don't give enough credence to in my opinion is mechanical reliability/durability. I understand this quality would be hard to test but to me at least this quality is just as important as the view provided by the binocular.If you took many of the Chinese binoculars that almost do as well optically they would fall well short of the premium binoculars in longevity, especially if subjected to heavy use. Steve
Quote:Quote:The thing such sites don't give enough credence to in my opinion is mechanical reliability/durability. I understand this quality would be hard to test but to me at least this quality is just as important as the view provided by the binocular.If you took many of the Chinese binoculars that almost do as well optically they would fall well short of the premium binoculars in longevity, especially if subjected to heavy use. Steve Steve,Reliability/durabilityI have been purchasing/collecting new & used binoculars since 2005.Some of my used binoculars were manufactured back in the 1970's or 1980's.Out of all my binoculars only two have been sent back to the distributors/manufacturers repair shop for warranty work.One was sent back, more than once, because the distributor/manufacturers repair shop screwed it upwhen they were working on it and they never corrected their error. I eventually gave it away to someone in the binocular repair business.The other one was sent in, under warranty, to tweak the collimation & the right diopter adjustment settingsto manufacturer specifications, to correct a factory error.I did return two, brand new, Giant Chinese imports to the distributor because of factory Quality Control issues, etc. Reliability/durability problems are the least of my concerns. The majority of my issues, with binoculars, have centered around alignment/collimation, mainly associated withthe purchase of 'used' binoculars.Some of the collimation problems could have been a result of rough shipping and handling. Stan
Quote:One of these binoculars (9x35 7.3* Nikon J Pat.) is one of the sharpest binoculars (on axis) that I have ever looked through.
Quote:I've only been at the astro thing for a couple of months and already had bad luck with collimation/alignment on two brand new binoculars, a Pentax 20x60 PCF WPII (somewhat surprising), and a Celestron Skymaster (not surprising). It has made me a bit paranoid.