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Quote: I've casually talked with some active members of the church, but I don't want to be a jerk.
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Quote:This is my own private rant... Maybe just a chance to blow off steam. I live in a very small town, (pop. 1400) in rural Iowa. I'm in the last house on a dead end street on the edge of town. Years ago, I had no trouble observing fairly dim DSO's from my yard. In recent years though, the church about a block west of me, has exercised it's right to keep it's parking lot lit all night, every night, with multiple unshielded sodium vapor lights...
Quote:I've casually talked with some active members of the church, but I don't want to be a jerk. As I get older though, I'm beginning to feel more cantankerous...
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Z12 on custom mount, Atomic EQ platform, 100% flocked, OMI primary, Astrocrumb filter slide with O-III, NPB, & skyglow filters. Focuser & spider rotated 45 degrees. New springs & Bob's Knobs, Telrad & 9x50 straight finder 35 & 24 Pans, TV 13,7,5 T6s
Custom Orion XT10 with piggyback XT4.5 on Round Table EQ Platform
Quote:Yeah, I didn't mention I sleep with a blanket over the bedroom window...
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Quote:As I said in a previous post, there is ample information on this forum you could print out for them to read to help them understand the situation.
Quote:Quote:Yeah, I didn't mention I sleep with a blanket over the bedroom window... Well, until your situation is brought to the church's attention; you will see no change. I would at least make an effort to discuss the LP with them, as they have no clue without it being brought to their attention. As I said in a previous post, there is ample information on this forum you could print out for them to read to help them understand the situation.
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Quote: The general public is mostly unaware of light pollution and it's effects,
Quote:t. A little shaming can be helpful.
Quote:Send the picture to the local paper as part of letter on light pollution. Use a catchy subject line like the heavens share gods glory and local church is lit up at night more like a prison camp to blot it out. A little shaming can be helpful.
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Quote:Agree with the previous pair of posts. These guys aren't trying to create a problem. They think they're solving or preventing one. Patience, persistence, and education, all offered in as polite a manner as possible. If that doesn't work, you can try more insistent tactic, but if you start out by being confrontational, you've slammed the door on ever getting them to understand that there's a better way to light their property.
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Quote:In recent years though, the church about a block west of me, has exercised it's right to keep it's parking lot lit all night, every night, with multiple unshielded sodium vapor lights, wiping out the view of maybe two thirds of God's universe.
Quote:These guys aren't trying to create a problem. They think they're solving or preventing one. Patience, persistence, and education, all offered in as polite a manner as possible.
Quote:Amen! I'd be very surprised if they intend to bother or offend anyone. The idea of offering to do a stargazing session is a winner. You can show them the problem, show that you're a reasonable person, and also let them know that you are around, serving as a volunteer security system/good neighbor that they probably didn't know about. My church just put up a 2nd on-all-the-time light because of one member's security worry.
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Quote:Isn't it really up to the OP to simply contact the church, arrange to meet with the Senior Pastor, and then discuss it in a calm, and non-confrontational manner? It surprises me how many posts in this thread reflect a belief that the OP will not only meet with resistance to his request, but that he may even make an enemy or two in the process!
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Quote: Living in a small town is a lot different then a city and it requires a different approach.
Quote:One should also be aware that, for the most part, the elders, and not the pastor, run the church... and on addition, to be aware that the elders are in turn run by the elderettes.
Quote: WADR both you and Carol misunderstand the purpose of the advice some of us have given.
Quote:Quote: Living in a small town is a lot different then a city and it requires a different approach. Very true. Having lived most of my life in one such hamlet or another, I'm well aware of how remarkably easy it is to torque off the locals, who seem only too happy to focus their anger and hatred on anyone they deem a troublemaker, whether the label is merited or not. Sadly, small towns seem to attract and/or produce a sizeable percentage of comparably small minds.
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