G11/Gemini-2/OPWB Canon 60D (unmodified) with 18/55mm kit lens and "nifty fifty" lens Assorted M42 screw mount lenses (28mm thru 300mm) Celestron 102GT refractor (Costco special) 8/10 inch astrograph someday. DeepSkyStacker 3.3.2 StarTools 1.3 http://www.astrobin.com/users/StarGale/ http://everettastro.org/
Quote:Hi Greg,I assume in the screen example above you can use the control key to select non-consecutive items from the lists.Gale
Clear skies - Jim Crazy PNW imager !
A-P Mach1 on 12" concrete pier - ROR structure.
Tak FSQ85-EDX, Tak FS-128. Orion 8" f/3.9 w/MoonLite motorized - MPCC MkIII CCD:
SBIG 8300M/FW8, Astrodon 36mm LRGB, 5nm Ha, 3nm SII, OIII - Canon EOS 6D unmod SSI3, SSAG,
Skytools3pro, MaxImDLpro, PSCS5, PSPpro, TheSkyX, TheSky6, BYE, StarTools
Orion XX14g -for visual- diags, ep's, accy tubes, Binocs .
Quote:Really? "Angry pitch fork wielders"? Really that's the moderators' opinion? Sounds a bit like being called a "bitter clinger". Guess I'll wield my fork by doing as Greg, NEVER buying from Astronomics.
Orion XT8 Pentax
It's a long night and tell me what else were you gonna do...
Quote:Quote:Really? "Angry pitch fork wielders"? Really that's the moderators' opinion? Sounds a bit like being called a "bitter clinger". Guess I'll wield my fork by doing as Greg, NEVER buying from Astronomics.
Well that sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I am thankful that Astronomics provides the resources to run Cloudynights.
I'll keep supporting Astronomics and Skytools.
Caretaker of: www.astronomics.com www.cloudynights.com www.astronomytechnologies.com
Quote:I understand about a newspaper who is "paying" a person to write an article for them. This however is done for free by a user that has been unsolicited by us. If we had paid someone to write an article and it was proven to be mistake filled then obviously we would retract it, however the best we can do is post a disclaimer about it as we didn't pay for it, didn't ask for it, and I didn't put it up. I believe our unpaid volunteer workers did everything they were supposed to do. They took a user experience that was not bashing a product or saying it didn't do something it wasn't supposed to do, for example getting mad when a screwdriver didn't do a good job acting as a hammer, but from what I can understand didn't do everything they thought it should. There have been multiple new users pointing out the potential errors in the review. Again, my best solution is write a review that points out these issues.
Quote: It doesn't matter if you paid them or not. If factually misleading information was posted that hurts someone's business then you are both morally and legally liable to offer a remedy.
Ron NS11GPS Pronto
16" dob Vixen NA140SS
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Best of ATM
Quote:Greg,Here is my stance again, for the final time, as more bandwidth is being used on back and forth repeat explanations then the original content took up.The opinions expressed in the “review” is that solely of the author and not the opinions of Cloudy Nights, LLC, their volunteer staff, or anyone associated with Cloudy Nights directly or indirectly. ...
Quote:We actually have an attorney on staff and my wife in an attorney. I can kindly ask you to please stop the badgering about a review that is purely the opinion of another member of the site. My stance has been above board and honest in its approach. If you would like to further discuss the matter feel free to contact me. It would be the first contact in this matter directly to me through phone, e-mail, or private message. Again, I don't have a dog in this fight and this is really starting to drag on when the reviewer said the product was good. I don't really get it. Any error of fact has been corrected by you or by other users. This is starting to become a squabble fest and is not productive for anybody. I will simply say again, this is the last I have to say on the matter. We can lock the thread and prevent it from going any farther. We don't want to delete the thread to take away your rebuttal in the matter. I will kindly ask for a fourth time, that someone who is familiar with your product to write a review.
Quote:I have a grand idea, why not contact the guy that wrote the article, point out the fixes he couldn't find and ask him to edit his review. Solves everything.
Quote:As volunteers they don't have the chance to get to things right away, so you need to give them a chance.
Quote:The entire thing can be addressed by writing a review. I don't understand why that keeps getting glossed over.
You do not need a parachute to skydive, you only need a parachute to skydive twice...
Quote:Where I moderator I would lock this tread in a heartbeat.I was seriously considering buying Sky Tools.After reading these treads and all this whining. Now not so much. Not because of the reviewBut because of what seems to be the community that supports this tool.I’m sure the product is fine but the people not so much.Atstronomics are doing a wonderful thing here keeping up a forum for us to share our hobby please do not waste their time.. really! This is the Internet get over it!