305mm f/5 GSO 12" DSO 114mm f/7.8 Tasco 4.5" Red Tube 76.2mm f/15.7 Tasco 15TE #771027 80mm f/15 Sears 3.1" Refracor #412.4454 60mm f/15 Sears 2.3" Refractor #4 6305-A 60mm f/15 Sears 2.3" Refractor #4451 yada yada yada
Quote:If neither works, perhaps build some light shields.
CPC1100, C5/8 SE Mount, AVS MKII
My eyepieces are made from the waste product of exploding stars.
10XTi 102XLT ST80A(2" Focuser); President, Eypieces Anonymous, Denver Chapter (Hello, I'm an eyepiece junky, what's your excuse?)
DAS Dark Site
Quote:I'm not suggesting to rely on "passive tactics". However, if trying to reason with this individual, nor any codes to assist him, rather than having to move, LP panels would at least help him observe.
KJ6RGY Richard Trost
John in NW Arkansas
Quote:and light bulbs have been know to burn out......
Celestron Ultima 8 (1991) with a white tube (sold by Vixen)
Orion Express 80 on a CG-4
Fujinon 7 X 50 Binoculars
Williams Optics 8-24 mm Zoom(type 1)
Orion Ultrascopic 5 mm
University Optics 6,7 mm
Explore Scientific 80 deg 6.8mm,8.8 mm, 11 mm, 18 mm Meade UWA: 24 mm
Meade SWA: 40 mm Orion Shorty II Plus Barlow
Zhumel Planetary 18mm 1.25"
Quote:Nobody lives in the house. I missed that the first time. Why not unscrew the bulbs a bit while you are out and tighten them back when you are done?
Quote:Quote:Nobody lives in the house. I missed that the first time. Why not unscrew the bulbs a bit while you are out and tighten them back when you are done?
I would definitely ask the owner first. With the attitude shown, if someone else reports back to the neighbor, the OP could be charged with tresspassing.
Orion XT12i with Swayze-refigured primary & Protostar secondary
Televue NP101 refractor
William Optics Megrez 90 refractor
Universal Astronomics Deluxe Mounts
Tom Karpf (tkarpf) Vice President, Astronomical Society of Greater Hartford www.asgh.org
Quote:Build some light shades with bright colored tarps, with the bright side facing out, and leave them up 24/7. He might ask you to remove them, and then you will have negotiating power.
None of my kit is part of a two year pay to be part of beta test, that still isn't close to ending.
Quote:I'm not suggesting to rely on "passive tactics".
Quote:Also, point out that as YOU are living there and HIS house is unoccupied most of the time,IF HE TURNS OFF THE OUTSIDE LIGHTS OFF WHEN HE IS AWAY, you will call the police if you see/hear anything out of the ordinary.IF HE LEAVES THE LIGHTS ON, you will just chuckle that the annoying neighbor is getting what he deserves when the bad guys break in.
CPC 9.25Magnificent 50MM SSAGCelestron SkyMaster 15X70
Gary Honis Modded Canon 1100D (T3)Nikon D800
4.5", 6", and 10" Newtonian astrographs.
2 ST80s; ED80; 3 CCD cameras; 5 EQ mounts: all polished, tuned, and modified.
The rule of telescope features: aperture; equatorial tracking; or low cost. Pick any two.
Quote:Retaliating against a neighbor (or anyone) is never a good idea! I don't think this is what CN wishes to represent.While we all wish to have dark skies, bullying others to suit our needs will do nothing to further our goal to reduce LP.
Quote:Neither of the two active astronomy groups in the area pursues a darker sky agenda. Things are as they are, seems to be the motto.
Quote:However, light is tough subject, and that won't change if we are timid.
Quote:Every neighbor won over by whatever means is a victory, but in our modern world not much can be done one person at a time.
Quote:Dark sky is now a politcal issue and will require legislated solutions. It might be sad, but one planning director or city coucilman is worth more than a neigbhor.
Quote:If we look at this as individual cases with individual solutions we are doomed. . I really urge everyone to make some effort and to expand on any effort that you do make.
Every week I do something new to reduce light pollution. Eyes on the Sky is at 650,000+ views so far; more views = more awareness. Please consider sharing with others.
16" Starfinder f4.5 Dob
6" Starhopper f8 Dob
20x80 Zumell Bino's
32mm Meade Series 5000 26mm Orion Q70 18 mm Meade HD-60 12mm & 7mm Celestron X-cel
Paul B. Jones http://www.astrobin.com/users/bunyon/
Quote:Brett has it right; if you know your neighbors well, help them out occasionally, etc., its much easier to ask a favor.As to political action, sure that's the only way to solve the problem long term. But one a crystal clear Friday night, if much rather be out with my scope than lobbying someone.
LX200 ACF 10" Antares 105mm 10 " DOB Home built Canon T4i New Observatory...Norse Star....
Quote:and once in a while. My laser or flashlight will flash cross a window.
Quote:So what exactly DOES one do when "the honey doesn't attract the fly" anymore?I see it this way: When loud music is playing, a call to law enforcement is placed, and the music generally gets turned down within an hour (unless a permit was obtained, and even then, it's usually just one night). With lights, it's non-stop, always on. We are forced to run our air conditioning on cool nights rather than leave the windows open because my daughter must leave her light block curtains closed (which STILL don't block all of the light). We ought to be able to sleep in peace, and make the case to our municipalities based on solid evidence that lighting is deleterious to both health and sleep, and more light doesn't reduce crime (all backed up by studies and real-life experiences of other cities).
Yes, I too have telescopes and all of them are Go-To. Wherever I push them, that's where they Go-To. "When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't accomplish"
Quote:Since you have to use A/C anyways, maybe you can install a "cheap" heat exchanger system that has an obnoxiously loud outside unit. Mount the unit close to the property line between you and the neighbor and direct the noise generated by it in their direction.
Quote:That might be useful if:1) Their A/C unit wasn't already louder than ours2) Their A/C unit wasn't already closer to their bedroom window than any unit I could install on my property, which would be blocked by their garage and/or vehicles in their driveway3) It weren't closer to my daughter's window than theirs