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Quote:Pros and cons? Why are the skywatchers SO much cheaper than other APOs?
Quote:Thanks Jon just looking but noted. Will keep eyes peeled and keep reading
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Quote:For most objects, the difference in the view between a TeleVue NP-101 and a SkyWatcher ED-100 is small. In some ways you don't get a lot for your extra $3000. Jon
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Quote:...Pros and cons? Why are the skywatchers SO much cheaper than other APOs?
Rob Astronomy compels the soul to look upwards and leads us from this world to another..... Plato
Quote:Quote:...Pros and cons? Why are the skywatchers SO much cheaper than other APOs? The question about the Sky-Watcher might be, why are the others so expensive? Indeed, why? I've seen numerous posts here on CN, guys who've sold their TV 102s (or at least have both) and kept the Sky-Watcher ED100 because it's simply that good for the money! I'm impressed. Sky-Watcher would be my choice for sure for an ED of that f ratio.
My eyepieces are made from the waste product of exploding stars.
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Quote:I am generally on the budget side of things not in this case.
First and foremost observing love: naked eye.
Last but not least, telescopes.
And I sometimes dabble with cameras.
Quote:my only pet peeve and its really a minor thing, I found the 2 speed focuser to be not to my standard.
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Quote:BTW, I understand it's just not really fair to compare the SW and the TV, it's like comparing a Mini Cooper to a Porsche. It's simply the value quotient, and that usually changes for each of us over time. What was important becomes less important, or vice versa, etc..
Quote:I ask him all the deep questions (I am a fan)
Quote:lol Matt you gonna buy another scope..lol
I think it is fair to compare a TeleVue 102 to the Skywatcher ED-100 They are both very similar scopes,
Quote:Note to self : don't read the Beginner CN forum. Now I feel like I have to replace the focuser on my SW 80ED...grrrrr
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Quote:Quote:I think it is fair to compare a TeleVue 102 to the Skywatcher ED-100 They are both very similar scopes, Well, yeah. Compare up to a point. I've owned both Mini Coopers and Porsches and can safely say the Mini is just as fun to drive, plus you don't have the worry of parking dings, nor the cost of repairs. That said, when it comes down to it, the lap times between a Mini and a Porsche don't provide any useful information to a prospective buyer. You also need to drive both to understand.
Quote:I think it is fair to compare a TeleVue 102 to the Skywatcher ED-100 They are both very similar scopes,
Quote:The mini-Cooper and the Porsche are not all a like, different displacement engines, different engine designs, different tires, different wheel bases, different weight distributions, different suspension systems.
Quote:Quote:The mini-Cooper and the Porsche are not all a like, different displacement engines, different engine designs, different tires, different wheel bases, different weight distributions, different suspension systems.Sure. But they both have 2 doors, a windshield, an engine, 4 wheels and disc brakes. They both have glove boxes, and steering wheels. They're both meant to be driven. And they both have [ad nauseam...]We could go on forever debating this point.
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Quote:I was reading about M79 which I've been unable to detect other than as a faint star in the reflector.
Quote:There is something worth understanding here. Comparing the Mini Cooper to the Porsche is like comparing a 3 inch apo to an 8 inch apo, they are just very different animals and there is no reason to expect that they would perform at all alike.
Quote:I have to disagree. The two cars (Mini Cooper S and any 2 door Porsche) are surprisingly similar.
Quote:So Jon, based on your comments, there is no reason to purchase (even if you could) a new TV102 at four times the cost of the Sky-Watcher.