Omni 150 Newtonian on CG-4
ES 127 ED triplet f/7.5 on GPD2
Celestron CPC Deluxe HD 1100
Sky-Watcher Pro 120ED
Explore Scientific 82° 30mm, 18mm, 11mm, 6.7mm, 4.7mm
Canon T3i Baader mod, Hyperstar, IS-618CIU Camera
My Astro Gallery
Quote:We seem to be attempting to describe some of the intersections of emotion and intellect;
Quote: ...we are viewing the same night sky as the old astronomers did hundreds of years ago. Aside from the planets positions, everything is exactly as it was long ago.
Quote: - if you are open to the experience you can lose yourself in a universe beyond our everyday experience.
"I have been paddling in the shallows of a great ocean of knowledge." - Sir Isaac Newton * * 15" F4.55 Starsplitter Dob & a Denk II binoviewer * * http://peaceofsky.wordpress.com/ Pacheco State Park Fremont Peak
My eyepieces are made from the waste product of exploding stars.
10XTi 102XLT ST80A(2" Focuser); President, Eypieces Anonymous, Denver Chapter (Hello, I'm an eyepiece junky, what's your excuse?)
DAS Dark Site
Quote:If you're lucky, the 3-dimensionality of the Universe you can see comes through.I also like the fleeting nature of what you see at the very limit of your vision. The very faintest image comes in and out so you want to be looking when it winks in. We observe in an art gallery of natural objects--one in which the halls are filled with smoke. Sometimes, the halls are nearly clear and we see farther and fainter, and more clearly, the artworks of the natural universe. Other times, the halls are filled with wispy smoke and we barely make out the details and features we saw the last time we were here. That variability makes us want to continually experience the night sky anew. On that one night when nature has ripped away all the haze between us and the universe, we want to be there to see it.[...]One night I suddenly got the idea of distance in my mind as I saw the bulge in the Milky Way extending to alpha and beta Librae, and viscerally felt the enormous size and distance to that bulge. For a brief moment I was a speck of dust on a small ball of rock orbiting a small star an immense distance from the core of the galaxy. It was enough for me to spend the rest of my life looking for that same feeling again.
Quote:“Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.-- Carl Sagan
Quote:Purely visual for me. I like to see the real thing.
Quote:The universe is an awesome distillery of wonder. Deep space is a giant joy-seasoned barrel therein, flavored with grace and peace. As photons leave a sun's surface they begin to steep: miniscule transient flashes marinating in glee. Once appropriately aged, perhaps ten thousand years for a showy open cluster, or ten million years, more suitable for the majestic swirl of a galaxy, each tiny drop is delivered to one of the waiting watchful. Our uplifted eyes imbibe this heavenly elixir, and the essences dissolve into our minds and hearts, forever changed and grateful.
Quote:Taking the football game analogy another step.Or watching the game vs. getting a great still photo from the sidelines. Both could be a person's choice and thrill but it's going to be hard to do both at the same time.
Tom Schutz Old 6" f/8 Newtonian, Edmund mirror Old Edmund EQ pedestal mount ---- SV102ED LXD75 & SV M2 mounts ---- Pentax 20x60's Farpoint/Scopestuff/Bogen mount ---- Nikon 10x50's
Quote:Regardless of whether you choose to image with your retina or observe with your CMOS, in either case we are doing very similar things: enjoying the beauties of the cosmos, participating in their existence with our awareness of it, and pondering our place in it all. That's what unites observers, imagers, naked eye astronomers of past millenia, and future travelers to the objects of our attention.
Quote:for imagers, having a collection of great captures is similar to those who keep photo albums of their life, their children, or their friends. It's nice to go through them all and think what a great shot I remember that night.
Quote:One night I suddenly got the idea of distance in my mind as I saw the bulge in the Milky Way extending to alpha and beta Librae, and viscerally felt the enormous size and distance to that bulge. For a brief moment I was a speck of dust on a small ball of rock orbiting a small star an immense distance from the core of the galaxy. It was enough for me to spend the rest of my life looking for that same feeling again. It happened when I was 12, and had my first scope, and sat outside by a lake learning the constellations with a paper planisphere. I had read all about the Milky Way and how big it was and how deep into it the Messier objects were that I was observing with my 4.25" scope.I knew where home was. And it was under the stars, looking up.
Quote:I'm a visual observer. This is trivial, but one of the things about visual observing that blew my mind...I was looking at Stellarium to try to locate my first couple Messiers (M57, M39), and I noticed that all the stars on the chart had a color, I thought it was useless information, telling me the spectral types of the stars or something. Made me think of boring abstractions, like the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram.Then I noticed that the stars in the eyepiece were the same color as the chart!!! Stars have colors!!! You don't have to be Hubble to see it!Out of this world, man, out of this world.
John L ========= Celestron 80ed Celestron C8 AT90edt Celestron AVX celestron CG5 Canon 600D modded William Optics Binoviewer Orion 10x50 bino's Ep's The collection is building ¡ʇɔs ɐ uʍo noʎ ǝƃɐssǝɯ sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ uɐɔ noʎ ɟı
LS60THa/B1200 Cerevolo 8" F5 MN Orion 11 SCT Tak EM200, Meade 6" F5 Newt, Starblast 4.5", ETX 90 C6 SCT, Meade 90 mm F9 refractor Meade 10"SN Canon T3, Mallincam Extreme
Quote:It has been my experience that, at least in viewing solar system objects, visual trumps imaging.
First and foremost observing love: naked eye.
Last but not least, telescopes.
And I sometimes dabble with cameras.
150mm MCT f/13, 31% CO
"People say I'm in denial. I disagree."
Quote:...So, rather than a boring abstraction, the good old HR diagram tells you a lot about what you're going to see...
Tom Polakis Tempe, AZ Visual observing, DSLR photography, lunar & planetary imaging http://www.pbase.com/polakis/
Quote:Whoa Don! A lot of that was greek to me, I'm going to have to talk to my mom (she is an astronomer, I am just a star-gazer).But I think you touched on why I'm not very impressed by M13! I haven't used anything better than 6" from an urban site. I can resolve a few globs (M22 stands out in my memory), but M13 has always just been a very bright blurry star to me. But that makes sense, if M13 is just composed of such a huge number of high-magnitude stars that it is visible even though I can't resolve many of the individual stars.Thanks.