Quote:Fellow CNers,In this deep sky forum we have, at the moment, three top threads in a row with names of celestial objects misspelled on the subject lines. A typo here and there is fine...
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Really? These are just renamed NGC catalog objects for the most part.
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Quote:Quote:There was no discussion of bylaws and the subject says "please". So, let's be somewhat civilized and put the official designation along with whatever screwy name that seems to attract folks. NGC 253 is still a beautiful galaxy regardless of its "name".
I know all that. What I was trying to say, in a humorous light, was that if we're going to be so uptight, anal, and PC here with how we discuss what we observe, it takes the fun out of not just observing, but of interacting and sharing our findings and feelings of what we observe. It is conceited attitudes like that which turn newcomers off and push even veteran amateurs away from the hobby. Not to mention the desire of putting someone on the "ignore" list for being a "know it all" instead of simply googling, and still sharing in the other person's joy of describing what they just found and doing their best to describe. Good grief.
Quote:There was no discussion of bylaws and the subject says "please". So, let's be somewhat civilized and put the official designation along with whatever screwy name that seems to attract folks. NGC 253 is still a beautiful galaxy regardless of its "name".
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Quote:... So if I'm wrong about how I intepreted the OP's title then sorry.Bill
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Quote: I'm pretty hung up on spelling errors in my OWN posts but just grin-and-bear-it with others'.
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Quote:First, I was surprised that the debate did not die down with Sir Patrick's departure. While he was one of us (in a broad, egalitarian sense ) I also could feel some resentment stirring deep down: why was he invited to publish a deep-sky list and I wasn't? Another smiley here would be unsightly but it is implied.
Quote:Quote:"apres-Messier" list Excuse my ignorance, but please define. I'm not sure I understand what this phrase means even after searching for a definition. Thanks!PS Glad this thread has morphed into something more appropriate to the forum than than its rather "snarky" (IMO) beginnings. I hope readers will not exit the forum based on one thread. Of all the great forums here, I enjoy this one the most for its friendly, informative non-judmental posters!
Quote:Ken, the arrangement by declination (or reverse declination) may be unique among catalogs in use today. But in the 19th century James Dunlop's celebrated southern catalog was arranged by declination, and I believe Dunlop had predecessors in this - although I find myself unable to give another example at the moment and therefore may be wrong.
I noted with interest your magnitude/arc minute squared measurement.
Is that sort of information readily available? I find a magnitude alone isn't enough information, as the size of the object does correspond with the ability to detect it.
Thanks in advance
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