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8" GSO RC with CSL Moonlite FocuserTelevue TV60isLosmandy G11 with Gemini 2 (with Ovision upgrade)
SBIG STT-8300m with Self Guiding filter wheel
A wide assortment of lenses for my Canon.
Quote:Don't forget the MX comes with weights. I think also a saddle. Those are extra cost items with AP.The problem isn't so much the PC - most people use PCs to image - but setting up the pointing model. Its not a "slap it down turn it on and observe" kind of user experience.
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Quote:The problem isn't so much the PC - most people use PCs to image - but setting up the pointing model. Its not a "slap it down turn it on and observe" kind of user experience.
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Quote:frolin, good to know. however even if you slap it down and turn it on, you still need the PC, right? no option for completely dumb operation.
Quote:....even if you slap it down and turn it on, you still need the PC, right? no option for completely dumb operation.
Quote:Quote:....even if you slap it down and turn it on, you still need the PC, right? no option for completely dumb operation. It will indeed work as a dumb mount. Without a computer connected it tracks and the hand controller can be used to slew in RA/DEC as usual. I've done this on rare occasions.
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Quote:We need some price wars to bring these inflated 'high-end-mount' prices down to earth.
Quote:That's interesting.... I don't really see these high end mounts as overpriced.
Quote:not if you're using an SG-4 or similar... i'm thinking of the SG-4 + DSLR combination for hassle-free imaging.
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Televue Genesis sdf (f5.4)
A. Jaegers 6" f/5 RFT
A. Jaegers 6" f/10 refractor
Meade 8" f/10 LX200 SCT OTA
Meade LX850 14" f/8 OTA
Atlas EQ-G Equatorial Mount
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Quote:".. is something of a red herring .." Totally agree! For any long exposure imaging, the vast majority are going to be using a CCD with FW and capture software along with autoguiding. Even using a DSLR, most will use capture software. In my mind,anyone purchasing a mount in this class would be looking to do AP exclusively.
Quote:Quote:not if you're using an SG-4 or similar... i'm thinking of the SG-4 + DSLR combination for hassle-free imaging. Maybe if you've got a standalone guider, which not many people do. OTHERWISE, you won't be guiding even ST4 style without a computer. You will have PHD, or Maxim, or CCDsoft running on a PC to allow you to guide. Some of the standalone autoguiders can work, but not a cotton picking one of them works as well as good old PHD and a computer. The computer is something of a red herring in my mind, anyway. A netbook is actually more portable and easier to use than some dadgum standalone autoguider.
Quote:I'd stack my STV up against just Aout Nything for accuracy... And it's way, way faster than any pc based approach... Generally I'm guiding before my pc has finished booting and the camera has reached temp!You can get an STV used now for a steal price wise... Is it as portable as a netbook or laptop? No. But, unlike software based solutions, it is basically a hardware urn key appliance. I like that.That said, the MX is on my desire list, after all my STV will guide it just fine...
Skywatcher 6 inch F-5 Newtonian,Lunt LS60THa,Orion ED80T CF ED Triplet,Vintage C-8(1983),Celestron 8se, Celestron CG-5,iEq45, Atik 314L+Mono,Atik 314 L+ OSC, Imaging Source DMk 41AUO2 My images viewed here.. http://www.astrobin.com/users/northisup2/
Quote: I won't pretend to know why you need to make a pointing model with this mount but...I would like to comment that it would sure be nice if you could buy a mount of this caliber with a decent hand controller like on my iEQ45 or CG-5 .