"You would think that I am wiser after traveling around the Sun 62 times."
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Homemade 16"F6.5 dob(Stellafane optical winner 1996) and 22.6" F4.9 homemade mirrors, 10"F7 dob (Stellafane 2nd opt 2009)Celestron Ultima 9.25 dynascope RV6 1973, Orange C14 1975,orangeSupC8,c11/C5orangetube CGEM, CGE, Meade 30 UWA5K,34&28mmSWA 5k,14mmUWA4K 4K/ES9mm&14mm100degree/panoptic 22mm/nagler11mmT6/7mmT1/3.5mmT6/T.V.WF 19mm and 15mm, Cel AXIOM LX 23mm/15mm Sears 80F15 3#4454/sears4-6344 76mmf16
"The White Zone is for loading or unloading of passengers only. No Astrophotography." Cosmic Acres! Greatest restoration challenge: Tulley and Sons 3" achromat on Altazimuth mount, circa ~late 1820s
That's a Meade 12.5" Research Series Newtonian, made in the early 1980s. I helped build the non-functional prototypes in 1979.
The castings are sand cast. The patterns were made by modifying Cave castings so they didn't say "Astrola" and adding the thrust bearing surfaces between the RA and Dec castings at the north polar bearing.
The tube is "fiberlite", which is a resin-impregnated paper tube. Very stiff and lightweight, but not quite as strong as fiberglass.
That one has at least a couple of nifty accessories - the RFT guidescope (4.5" it looks), and the accessory shelf on the pier.
Price should be comparable to a late-70s Cave, similarly equipped, I would think. So maybe between, say, $800-$1200?
Parks bought the Cave patterns, I believe, and made some changes to them over time. I thought I heard recently that they're no longer in business. In any case, the list prices for their comparable 12.5" Newtonians were somewhat - how should I put this - dreamy?
Tak-106, AP900GTO, Unitrons, Masuyamas
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. "J. Robert Oppenheimer"
12" DSH 8" f/4 Vega MakNewt
Astronomy educator/Sidewalk astronomer
Owner of Astronomy Delight franchise
18 inch f4.42 Dob on eq platform w ST120 f/5 finder
12 inch Zhumell Dob
8 inch f/6.9 home made Dob with Seevers optics
William Optics red 10th Anniversary 80mm FD
C8 XLT on Vixen GPDX
26lb eyepiece box
Cernan Space Center astronomer
Member of Northwest Suburban Astronomers
Quote:Thats nice, ide be interested in it if it was in Ohio.
Quote:Quote:Thats nice, ide be interested in it if it was in Ohio. I ran across the gentleman while I was doing some research. I thought I had a way to bring it to Ohio, but alas, it fell through. The scope is located in southern California up at about 5000 ft.The whole roof of the observator slides back. It is also for sale!Turk
http://txstars.org/ "It's not a 12 Step Program it is a 12 shot Roll" Equipment: Yes
Cave - 1976 10" Custom Deluxe, 1977 8" Light Weight Deluxe, 1955 6" f/4 RFT
Unitron - 155C, 1960 142, 70's 128, 1954 128, 1960 114
Swift 1962 831
Monolux 60mm altz
Quote:.....Look, I HATE that beautiful, sometimes even well equipped classic scopes don't fetch higher prices, especially when I have one to sell! The the simple truth is that people these days want goto wizzbang electronic gizmology, and the classics ain't that. Some can be converted, at cost, but then they're not pristine anymore.Another good example would be an orange tube C-8, or a Meade 2080. Even one of these beauties in mint condition isn't worth more than a few hundred dollars. There are just too many of them out there......-Tim.
Ross Workman Dawson Springs, KY West Kentucky Amateur Astronomers www.wkaa.net 18" f/4.5 Frontier Dob with a Galaxy primary - Argo Navis - ServoCat Meade 12.5" f/4.8 Starfinder (to be converted into a truss one of these days...) Tasco 38T 8" f/6 Newtonian
Kmart 40mm-Thanks Mom|Jason60mm-Thanks Dad|C80SS-Thanks Wife|C90|C102|C6XLT|AP130EDFGT|C-11XLT EQ-2|EQ-3|CG5GT|Mach 1 & Eagle "For once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return".-Leonardo da Vinci "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."-Oscar Wilde ~RIP Dad, you were my best friend...Godspeed!~
Quote:Quote:.....Look, I HATE that beautiful, sometimes even well equipped classic scopes don't fetch higher prices, especially when I have one to sell! The the simple truth is that people these days want goto wizzbang electronic gizmology, and the classics ain't that. Some can be converted, at cost, but then they're not pristine anymore.Another good example would be an orange tube C-8, or a Meade 2080. Even one of these beauties in mint condition isn't worth more than a few hundred dollars. There are just too many of them out there......-Tim. Tim, you hit the nail square on the head concerning the classics. I recently advertised a little Meade 826. When I posted it on our club board, one relatively new member quickly responded and asked "how accurate is the pointing?"I had to explain that it was a classic telescope...1980 vintage, pre-goto. I think it blew his mind!An older member of our club who appreciates the older scopes bought it for a quick rollout scope.Sadly, the classic scope does not retain its market value. But it certainly retains its sentimental value with many of us....
Cave Mirror Registry
1971 Cave 10" f/6 Custom Super Deluxe
1958 Cave 10" f/7 Model C De Luxe
1974 Cave 8" f/8 Model B Deluxe
1970 Cave 8" f/6 Lightweight Deluxe
1971 Unitron 145C
1 Caveman Award!
Quote:Look, I HATE that beautiful, sometimes even well equipped classic scopes don't fetch higher prices, -Tim.
Quote:Heck with the house, I want to know what's in the "boxes of stuff".What if there is a complete set of Meade RGs in there.
Quote:Quote:Look, I HATE that beautiful, sometimes even well equipped classic scopes don't fetch higher prices, -Tim. I agree Tim, but if it weren't FOR those lower prices, we would not own so many of the classic scopes!
Quote:What is lost in this entire evaluation is that all of this stuff used to be hand made, at least for the most part. It took time and expertise. Modern machining and manufacturing techniques have replaced humans as experienced optical technicians.