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Quote:I have no idea how those places are though. rather Frazier park, Because my friend is the one driving around there is the limitation that it has to be paved, it has to be a max of four hours from Los Angeles and there cant be issues with snow. if I had a choice I would pick frazier park but isnt it still snowed in in march?
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Quote:Frazier Park itself is at about 5000 feet.
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Quote:Quote:Frazier Park itself is at about 5000 feet.Ah yes.. But Mt. Pinos itself (and the Nordic base parking lot where all the astronomers usually end up) is at 8800 ft and has several snow gates on the way up the mountain. I hiked Mt. Pinos last year in winter (not near the bone chilling cold it has been this year) and it was so windy and cold (and snow on the ground) that my nose and lips were chapped for days. I wouldn't recommend anyone going there to stargaze in the middle of winter. Better to wait until April or so to visit that place safely.-James
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Quote: The darkest I've seen in SoCal (on the SQM scale) is 21.89 at Mt. Pinos during a winter month in which the entirety of SoCal was under 6000' of clouds.
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Quote:Jon and all,The black zones in Baja California are very extensive, I'm sure there are dozens of potential great observing spots to be found especially in the Sierra La Gigante south of the small village of Loreto in Baja Sur. The black zones between the light polluted areas of La Paz/Cabo San Lucas and Cuidad Constitucion might offer reasonably low latitude (24-25 degrees N) observing sites for better views of Omega Centuri and Centaurus A. I've never been south of the Catavina desert but one day I'd like to take my 18" and my small pop up camper to explore these areas!
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Quote:Carey:I would like to see a light pollution map of the area, do you have a handy link?
Quote:My best friend lives in Todos Santos which is somewhat further south between La Paz and Cabo, it's right on the tropic of Cancer. I have never been down there but I will be going sometime soon.If you haven't driven the road between Tijuana and La Paz, it's a different experience than driving the US two lane roads. Five or six years ago, my friend and his wife were somewhat south of Gruerro Negro and a drunk driver lost control after making a pass and they were hit essentially head on.I made a rush to rescue them from a Motel room... The roads are narrow, most places there are no shoulders and the road bed is elevated. There are a lot of trucks and their side is just barely wide enough for a truck so you really have to be careful. As far as camping, I am not sure what it is like now, 40 years ago before drugs were a big thing, you could camp just about anywhere but things have changed.Jon
Quote:Gordon, Jon and Carey,The trouble with any area between La Paz and Cabo is that the best you are going to find is a grey zone, that said the Laguna moutain biosphere reserve has some good altitude sites by the looks of it in the Baja Almanac (plate 52) there is a ranger station right in the heart of the sierra at 1600M (no idea what the horizons might be like though). El Conejo looks easy to get to but its still in the grey zone and has very little elevation. There is a fairly large strip of black class skies south of Loreto on the east side of the penninsula located in the sierra La Gigante, although the altitude is nothing like the sierra San Pedro Martir, still the stretch of road that leads SW of Loreto passing through San Javier appears to have many sideroads leading into the mountains. This region looks promising for future exploration.
Quote:This stretch at least looks about the same conditions (2-lane paved, shoulderless) as 395 to China Lake 30 years ago (my wife and I always traveled by the full moon if he had to go at night) or the Ortega Highway today (I avoid it).
Quote:Note:In SoCal, "marine-layer" clouds often cover the coastal areas at night and suppress light. When that happens, sites to the east get a lot darker.Under similar optimum conditions, I've seen mag.21.85 at Mt. Pinos, 21.89 at Desert Center and 21.78 at Joshua Tree Nat'l Park (east side)Those sites are now averaging 21.3, 21.6, and 21.45 respectively.This seldom happens in Death Valley because the major light polluters are almost never covered by low clouds.
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