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TS 130/912 (f 7.10) Triplet Apo Refractor TS 152/1200 (f 7.90) Achromatic Refractor Astrologers say the future is written in the stars but Astronomers know this more so applies to the past... http://www.flickr.com/photos/72473941@N03/
Quote: Jon,Thats was kind of where I was heading. i saw top 10 as a combination of quality, value, best sellers etc so to me top 10 would be a mix of scopes covering a range of values.
Quote: NP-101. It's the most perfect scope I have owned. It is capable of providing highest quality views at all magnifications within reach of a 4 inch scope.Jon
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Quote:no love for fsq-106?
Quote: Quote: Jon,Thats was kind of where I was heading. i saw top 10 as a combination of quality, value, best sellers etc so to me top 10 would be a mix of scopes covering a range of values. To my mind, there are just too many subjective factors to ever come to a consensus that is meaningful. Certainly Orion has sold far more 100mm f/6 than TeleVue has sold NP-101's, but a list of the top 10 refractors would only have room for one and while the 100mm F/6 is cheap and represents a good value, its primary redeeming attribute is its cost, it not a great telescope, Somebody without much knowledge from the outside reading this list of "top" 10 refractors could easily be mislead or confused.
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Quote:I would argue from the other standpoint on what should be considered: "Top 10 Current Refractors". Most popular (sales) means something.
Quote: btw, if someone takes a great scope like the 120ST and tried to use it INCORRECTLY, then not the scope's fault...just the users. I put that scope on my list because so very many people like it for what it is, a wonderful low power refractive scanner of the heavens. Run around the heavens with it at 50x and not much difference one gonna see between it an a multi-thousand dollar extremely short focus APO. Same thing when one tried to put an ultra-short focal ratio APO up against a more traditional long focus APO for high magnification planetary observing...the short focal ratio one should not be on the list because it is being used in a way that is not where its strength is?
Quote:Jon, pleeeeeeease dont say stuff like the NP101 is the most perfect scope ever ....it just eggs me on to buy one and I really do need some shoes and food quite soon I have been shopping for a really excellent frac for ages but nothing so far is what I want, its either waaaaay too expensive, unavailable, too big to mount, supplier known to be a bit iffy etc etc.I was in the market for a good APO for about about 6 months but never saw anything that really took me and shook me. It was mostly kind of nice but a lot of cash and for alot of cash I want something more than 'kind of nice'
Quote:I am a big believer that just about every scope has something to be enjoyed, that with the right attitude, I can enjoy and learn using most any scope.And if cost is the primary factor, in my experience, the top 10 refractors are all Newtonian reflectors.Jon
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Quote:I'd accept the criticism that my experience with fracs is perhaps more limited than some, the TAL isnt the only frac I have used or owned by the way.
CPC 9.25 TV 76, 102, NP 101 Unitron 114 Gibraltar mount Half Hitch Mk III SolarMax 90 .7A/B15 Coronado PST Eyepieces from the sublime to the ridiculous
Quote:I hate "frac"!Bill
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Quote:Quote:I hate "frac"!
Bill Yeah I detest it also! Sounds like you're refering to "Frics" twin brother! Mike
Quote:I hate "frac"!
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Quote:The Celestron 102/4" F9.8 achromat. Not a fancy apochromat, not an expensive OTA, comes in many flavors and colors; comes on various mounts...but there's thousands of these things out there in various configurations, and thousands more being sold every year.
Quote:Alot of great, comparable scopes in today's market. I've owned the AP 130 EDF, AP Stowaway(F5), FSQ-ED. They were all spectacular. I've recently downsized from the heavy stuff(1 & 3)...meaning lighter weight mount and portability. My new, lighter TEC 110FL is equally spectacular to the above. And the mechanics are top notch. There are bigger and better on the market, but I'm at the stage where small is nice !
Quote:Quote:Alot of great, comparable scopes in today's market. I've owned the AP 130 EDF, AP Stowaway(F5), FSQ-ED. They were all spectacular. I've recently downsized from the heavy stuff(1 & 3)...meaning lighter weight mount and portability. My new, lighter TEC 110FL is equally spectacular to the above. And the mechanics are top notch. There are bigger and better on the market, but I'm at the stage where small is nice ! Absolutely so !small ,portable ,high quality stuff wins in the end. Ordered the TEC a couple of weeks back !
Quote:I too agree with the posts immediately above this one. Having had a lumbar laminectomy for a herniated disc at the young age of 19, I have to be forever careful to guard my back. Now that I am 60, the axiom is keep it at a size that I can handle. .... I think I am pretty much at my max comfortable weight in terms of wanting to move around various components so I will not succumb to aperture fever as I want to avoid hernia fever!BarryI'm near 60 myself. Sold my G11 also. I've never had a herniated disc, but as a Chiropractor, I know that any fatigue caused by lugging excessive weights...can certainly disrupt any back. Including mine. Down-sizing allows us to continue enjoying and sharing this marvelous passion.