Quote:I still want to see enckes and M57s central star in my 8. I may never and banging my head against the wall isn't going to make it any better.
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Quote:Geez Mullet let it go .
Quote:Quote:Geez Mullet let it go . No, I will not let it go. This guy sees bands in very small scope every single time he puts Uranus in his eyepiece, regardless of seeing conditions. It is pure fantasy, period.
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Quote:I don't now if it's been mentioned on any of these Stan-bashing threads, but all the bold contrast he shows is probably exaggerated for clarity.
Quote:The only thing this thread (and the previous one over a year ago) have done is get me out observing Uranus. This was a valuable consequence, but unfortunately, in the end, it amounted to an exercise in frustration. The first time Stan posted (that got my attention anyway) was on the appearance of a possible spot on Uranus in late 2011. I got all excited that finally there might be something visible on the planet, so I pulled my 9.25 inch SCT out to see if something was up. All I saw was what I had seen over the past four decades: a small pale bluish disk devoid of any detail other than the limb darkening and the "visual noise" that shows up at low light levels when viewing dim objects. I eventually pulled out my 14 inch f/4.6 Newtonian to give the planet a more rigorous look at higher power, but still didn't see any spots, bands, or other markings despite a number of viewing sessions under fairly decent viewing conditions.I put it down to just dumb luck missing a spot that had vanished until I noted all the band-like detail he was showing in his drawings time after time that I didn't get to see even a hint of. After that (and more observations with the 14 inch), I started to have some significant doubts. They re-surfaced in another similar thread about the "Uranus season", when Stan continued to post his drawings that showed significant detail. I had earlier tested things more rigorously with observations in a 24 inch driven Dobsonian at the Nebraska Star Party, where in the pre-dawn hours of one July morning, I managed to again see nothing other than the still smoothly-blank limb-darkened disk of Uranus.After a few more observations with my 14 inch at powers that should have easily revealed significant detail if present, I have basically given up on seeing any detail on the planet. Despite the larger apertures and higher powers used, Uranus remains the pretty but basically featureless pale bluish ball that it was when I first laid eyes on it in my 8 inch f/7 Newtonian back in the mid 1970's. Back then, the Stratoscope II balloon images of Uranus showed a blank disk, as did my views of Uranus at Lake Afton Observatory in their 16 inch in 1985. Voyager 2 in 1986 also showed (at a much larger scale) that same nearly featureless bluish disk that my 14 inch would continue to show time after time more recently. For these reasons, with my experience, I remain highly skeptical about reports of significant visual detail being routinely seen on that planet. Sorry, but I just don't think there is much of anything there to see. Clear skies to you.
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