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Quote:The 80mm is a great scope and will show you a LOT; unfortunately, you're gonna wanna see a LOT MORE sometime down the road. If you stay with the hobby, and get a larger scope(s), you'll want to keep the 80mm for those quick GrabnGo or backyard viewing nights.Just a suggestion for down the road, a next scope (to compliment your 80mm frac) would be a nice 8"-10" Dob....
Quote: shows you 85-90% of what's worth looking at.
Craig Meade ETX-80 (80mm F/5) refractor Skywatcher 80AR (80mm F/11.4) refractor Skywatcher 102AR (102mm F/5.9) refractor Orion XT10i dob Orion ST120 (120mm F/5) refractor Orion 120mm F/8.3 refractor Orion 127mm MAK Celestron C90 Celestron C6 Explore Scientific 80mm ED triplet Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars Celestron #44104 for exploring inner space The stable keeps growing...I think I need help!
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Quote: Quote: shows you 85-90% of what's worth looking at. Oh, maybe yes, maybe no.I can see a bunch of Globular Clusters in an 80mm aperture under dark skies, but they don't resolve very well.Using a large apeture I can resolve a graat number of them into beautiful swarms of pinpoint stars.Aperture is not about what you can see, but how well you can see it.I won't argue your point though. You can see a lot with an 80mm instrument.But the way I look at it, while you can see 85% - 90% of what's worth looking at 85% to 90% of targets will look better if you look at them in a 10" scope.Also, every time you double the apeture over 80mm, you greatly expand the number of targets that become more interesting.I think of a small refractor as a compliment to a much larger apeture, and my recommendation to the OP would be to start with at least an 8" dob bought off of Craigslist, and a good set of star charts.
Quote:Let the guys who have the time, great conditions, and $ take the pictures and you look at them.
Stellarvue SV70ED, UA DwarfStar, Oberwerk / AstroTech AT80EDT, AT Voyager / Celestron C6XLT, AT Voyager / Meade 8" LightBridge / Vixen VMC 110L (Baader Solar Film), Porta II / Celestron Nexstar 102GT, ES Twilight I / Oberwerk 20x80 DIII, Orion 10x50 Resolux
Quote:I think using pictures / images as a comparison to the eyepiece is fruitless and robs a lot from the viewing experience. Apples and oranges if even that. Diving the reef is nothing like watching a TV special, and same for actually surfing the wave and watching someone else do it.
Quote:Thanks for all the help! I was about to pull the trigger on a 10" dob, but I just couldn't do it, there so large I don't know how much I would use it. What 80mm scope would y'all recommend?
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Psalms 19:1
FH Vixen 80L, FH 4" f/11
"You're not afraid of the dark, are you?" - Riddick "The best scientists are humble. They seek to understand, not to ensure their legacy, but merely to understand." - Mori
ALL my posts should be considered as opinions shaped by MY experiences and understanding of the facts.
Quote:While I like both short-tube smaller refractors and light bucket dobs, I really don't understand trying to decide between them...they do different things, it's like apples and oranges, they're both fruits, but that's where it ends....
Quote:Look at most peoples signatures here, especially those who've been around awhile and you'll see multiple scopes in their inventory.........I love my dob, and my XLT, and my ST80. But I don't use the ST80 for planetary, and I don't try to fit the entire Veil Nebula into my dob, and I don't use the XLT to try and get at the dim fuzzies....they're designed for specific things and that's how I use them....
Quote:So I should buy both?
Quote: after you decide on the scope(s), we can discuss the care and breeding of eyepieces......
Quote: That's a pity that the two focusers are not so good. What was the problem with these focusers and what is better with the Kasai focuser?