8" f6 dob
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Quote: last saturday I went to my dark observing site after months of cloudy new moons (or close to that). I was looking forward to find some new targets, but I got lost with my charts and that became very dissapointing, thinking about all the time of pure observation I was losing.
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Quote: On the other hand, more often than not, I've already observed a dozen objects before some of my buddies have fooled around trying to get their GOTOs to work. That says something right there!
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14.5" Teeter w/ Richard Fagin mirror, TT #66
EON 120ED on CG-5 ASGT
Lunt LS60THa/B1200 Sky Guy Porta II
Denk Super System with A45 OCS
Quote: you've got nothing to prove to anyone, it's a hobby! Just don't waste a good night.
Quote: I admit I didn´t do my homework
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Quote: BTW, I am a very experienced starhopper myself, but recently I got my first GOTO mount. I was excited. I thought it was going to be a blast to use. It was boooooring. It was about as much fun as dragging a TV set to a river and watch a video about fly fishing... The fun, challenge and excitement from the hunt and the satisfaction from knowing the sky and how to find the target was completely missing. Other people praise the frustration-free observing of a GOTO, but I found it exceptionally dissatisfying.
Quote: One should sit down with the star charts and calendars and prepare a viewing session before setting out. I am not against Go To, but I am a star hopping viewer and therefore, must always prepare before going out.
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Orion XT8 Pentax
It's a long night and tell me what else were you gonna do...
Quote:Anyway, for the very first time I understood how useful a goto mount can be.
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Quote: Quote: last saturday I went to my dark observing site after months of cloudy new moons (or close to that). I was looking forward to find some new targets, but I got lost with my charts and that became very dissapointing, thinking about all the time of pure observation I was losing. That has happened to me, too. When it does, set it all aside, sit down and relax. Look at the beautiful sky for a while with the naked eye or perhaps with binoculars, then go visit some old celestial friends and forget your troubles. It's not a work or a race to see who can see the most objects. There's always a billion objects out there you'll never see, so one or two less on a list won't make a scrap of difference. What counts is being happy under the stars, not numbers on a piece of paper.BTW, I am a very experienced starhopper myself, but recently I got my first GOTO mount. I was excited. I thought it was going to be a blast to use. It was boooooring. It was about as much fun as dragging a TV set to a river and watch a video about fly fishing... The fun, challenge and excitement from the hunt and the satisfaction from knowing the sky and how to find the target was completely missing. Other people praise the frustration-free observing of a GOTO, but I found it exceptionally dissatisfying.Just my honest opinion. Clear skies!Thomas, Denmark
18" f/4.2 homebuilt truss 12.5" f/6 hybrid tube dob
14" Strut; 10"XT; 102ES; 22 in Process; 3.5,5,7,10,14,20mm Pentax XW; 17.3 & 12mm Delos; 27mm Panoptic; 20&24mm ES 68; 24mm ES 82; 30mm ES 82; 6&10mm BCO;
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Scopes: Meade SN6, 10" Dob, Meade LS6, 5" reflector, 8" reflector, 102GT
Mounts: LXD75 and LXD55
Camera: SBIG 8300M, Baader 7nm Ha, OIII, SII, LRGB
Quote:I agree completely. That moment when you give up the current chase, and sit back and look up, is really vital--it reconnects one to the sky, and provides an opportunity to relearn, or to learn better, the map of the stars overhead. Then, having relaxed a bit and refreshed your star-memory, maybe on the next go-round you won't turn north when you mean to turn south!-geo
Orion XT12g 12" f/4.92 GoTo Dob Orion 9x50 RACI - Green Laser Pointer Orion 4.5" f/4 EP: ES82 30mm, ES68 24mm EP: Hyperion 21, 17, 13, 10, 8, 5mm Various filters, including Skyglow, UHC, O-III Celestron Ultima 2x Barlow Celestron 12x80 binoculars & mount
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Quote:What is the real point of this thread? That you didn't do your homework, or you want a goto system? You know Messier and the other's of the day, they didn't have goto.
Quote:No point in this thread, just sharing an experience. I think this kind of feedback makes CN the most interesting forum to read.
DreamCatcher Dobservatory/AstroTech 16" dob
Quote:Last Saturday I went to my dark observing site ... but I got lost with my charts and that became very dissapointing ...
First and foremost observing love: naked eye.
Last but not least, telescopes.
And I sometimes dabble with cameras.
Quote:Quote:Last Saturday I went to my dark observing site ... but I got lost with my charts and that became very dissapointing ...There are nights like that. Most of the time star-hopping just clicks for me, and I find all my targets in a matter of minutes. But every now and then I have nights where everything goes wrong.
NP-101 on a DM-6
Teeter 11" STS/Waite Mirror
Zeiss, Fujinon, Nikon, Vixen binoculars
CPC 9.25 TV 76, 102, NP 101 Unitron 114 Gibraltar mount Half Hitch Mk III SolarMax 90 .7A/B15 Coronado PST Eyepieces from the sublime to the ridiculous
Quote: This has become increasingly difficult for me, as the number of clear nights continue to decrease, seemingly. In winter, in can be weeks, even a whole month or longer, between deep-sky nights. The whole sky seems to have changed each time I go out. Constellations that were prominent in the west have now set completely. I find it extremely difficult to plan constellation-specific projects, as I never know when I am able to observe them next time. Now I have observed for so long that I am very familiar with the sky and I can easily spend several hours even without an atlas, finding objects from memory alone. Or I can just bring Uranometria and open a page on a constellation that is well placed and begin, starting with something big and obvious and then checking out the smaller objects nearby. Every so often, I stumble on something nice. Most of my evenings are like this and I am almost always taken by surprise when it suddenly clears for a few, precious hours, and find myself scrambling for maps and eyepieces.Clear skies!Thomas, Denmark
Quote:Intersesting how times continue to change. There has always been the "star hop vs. goto" debate. That debate used to be centered around the technology-is-cheating argument.
Now we have "exclusive" star hoppers who rely on a laptop, a smart phone and 3 tablet computers to figure out where to point their scope.
I don't really know what this means. Guess there is no wrong way to skin a cat . . . as long as you end up with a skinless cat.