--MichaelDark site scope: Meade 8" f/6 DobWeeknight scopes: C9.25/iEQ45M, C102/AT Voyager(I am looking for a 1980s Edmund Scientific 3" f/10 red-tube reflector, PM me if you have or know of one!)
DJ Eastern Missouri, USA Bushnell 8x42's, SV80ed, Nexstar 130SLT, C5+, 8" LX200 Classic, 10" f/7 Cave, Orion XT10 w/Moonlite focuser
Quote: "are primarily interesting in finding and accumulating as many deep-sky objects as possible. They enjoy the challenge of the hunt and are satisfied when their plan of attack succeeds.
11" Edge HD Moonlite Crayford / Astro Tech 65Quad APO / on a CGEM-DX Mount / Under a TI Dome /EPs are TV 12mm Doles, Celestron 23mm Luminos, ES 14mm-20mm 100degree, ES 28mm-34mm 68degree,
Zhumell Z10 34 ES 68° 24 ES 68° 13 T6 8.8 ES 82° 6.7 ES 82° 4.7 ES 82° 8-24 MkIII Baader Zoom (plus Zoom Barlow) (35 Ultrascopic, 28 RKE, 26 TV Plossl, 20 Sterling, 18 Paradigm, 3.8 Parks Gold, Celestron 8-24 zoom2.5x (~2.2x) GSO Barlow, . Hardin DSO6, Orion 90 Mak, Astroscan, Celestron 90AZ) *GONE* [for now?] Bigger Dobs, refractors, Naglers, XWs, UWANs, etc, etc
Gear: Celestron Astromaster 130
Heritage 7x50 Binoculars
4.5", 6", and 10" Newtonian astrographs.
2 ST80s; ED80; 3 CCD cameras; 5 EQ mounts: all polished, tuned, and modified.
The rule of telescope features: aperture; equatorial tracking; or low cost. Pick any two.
Konus Super 120, Moonlite focus & Vixen GP2; Unitron 128 60mm eq; Atco 60mm f/11 eq
Pentax PDF V 20x60; Zhumell Tachyon 25x100; Swaro 10x42 EL Nikon D2x, F100
Secretary - Quad Cities Astronomical Society
Quote:I find the two "tendencies" to be a bit limiting in the sense that one is "gathering treasure." To me, the sky is my friend, it's not a collection of jewels. Lists are guideposts, they inform of what's out there; catalogues of loving and dedicated observing. Given these two polarities, I'd say say I lean toward the Caribbean style. But I'm more of a nomadic wanderer, stumbling across vistas that I have no clue about, until the next day, when I take time to read what the catalogue authors had to say about that part of the sky.Another way to say this is, where does the list come into play? If you're more about checking items off, then you're following someone else's discoveries. If you're more about consulting the lists, after the fact, then you are, inherently, a discoverer.For me, it's always been about the exploration and discovery; to move from the unknown to the known - growing via familiarity. Although I've stared at M31 and M42 hundreds of times, I never tire of welcoming their friendly appearance through an eyepiece. Wondering who, on the other end, might be looking back? If there is a "who"...Bottom line: is one's observing a collection or is it a relationship?
Quote: I rarely get to go out and observe (work 1930-0730) so when I get to I tend to look at everything I can, for as long as I can.
Time spent looking at the stars is added to your life
Bashful, Misty, and little Ralphie - my heavenly stars
A-P 105 Traveler ~ TEC 140 ED ~ TEC 6 MCT
A-P Mach1 GTO ~ Losmandy GM-8 ~ TV Gibraltar
Quote:Bottom line: is one's observing a collection or is it a relationship?
Present gear: 16-inch f/4.5 Dobsonian 50mm straight through-finder Green laser pointer 26mm, 32mm, and 38mm 70 degree field EPs 4.7mm, 14mm and 18mm 82 degree field EPs 8mm, 17mm, 21mm 68 degree field EPs 2X 2" Barlow Tirion star atlas (white stars, black background) hand-laminated Megastar Editor & co-founder Las Vegas Astronomical Society Observer's Challenge To nudge or not to nudge, that is the question www.fredrayworth.com
Starsplitter 20" Dob
Celestron 11 GPS
AstroZap 152mm Achro
Sears Discovery 80mm Achro
Z8 | C6 | C102 | C90 | ST80
Dobson | CG4 | DwarfStar & Manf 055XDB | Manf 3232 Swivel Tilt & Oben ACM-2400
C Skymaster 8x56 | Z Emerge 7x30 | Bushnell Xtra Wide 5x25
Webster/Zambuto 14.5" f/4.3 truss dob
Tele Vue-102, Gibralter mount
Tele Vue-76, Tele Pod mount
Canon 10x30 & 15x50 IS binocs
Celestron EDGE 11/CGEM | Stellarvue SVR90T-25FT20MM ES100 | Televue 31MM Nagler T5 | Televue 11mm Nagler T6 | Televue 2X PowerMate Sky Safari 4 | SkyFi
NP-101 on a DM-6
Teeter 11" STS/Waite Mirror
Zeiss, Fujinon, Nikon, Vixen binoculars
Carol Lakomiak, Tomahawk WIWriting Sky at Night magazine's astrosketch page since June 2009Moon Sketch TutorialSun/DSO Sketch TutorialCN GalleryPhoto Gallery
Eric NexStar 8SE,ES 102ED APO on Cdn TS Alt-AZ Lunt LS35THa on Vixen Porta-mount II SkyWatcher 8" Dob; Skywatcher 130 Newt HEQ5 Pro, MallinCam Univers & NexImage 5 more & more eyepieces 4.7 to 36mm Binoculars: Pentax 7x50; Celestron 15x70
Quote:I take my time at the eyepiece now that I picked up sketching. Been a peeker for years though. I always try to hit one new object at least a night still, but often they aren't on a checklist(though I do have a few that I am working on at a leisurely, non-competitive rate.
"Another new world, no beer, no women, no pool parlors, nothing to do here but to throw rocks at tin cans and we have to bring our own tin cans." Earl Holliman (Cookie)- Forbidden Planet
“I am the only person to ever ace a 1951 USAF resolution test. My 'to observe' list says 'done'. I do not use charts or atlases when I starhop; men do not use maps. One of my sketches won an SBIG deep sky imaging contest. I am the life of star parties I have never attended. I never say anything looks like a faint fuzzy - not even a faint fuzzy. Pilots aim green laser pointers at me. Don Pensack proofreads my CN forum posts.” - The Most Interesting Astronomer in the Universe
Scopes: Celestron 9.25, Orion 80MM and 120MM EON Apo
Solar: Lunt LS60THa/PT/B1200/50DS
Binos: Canon 15X50 IS Mounts: CGEM and LXD75
Eyepieces: Explore Scientific, Meade & TeleVue
Camera: DMK 41, Canon 6D, SBIG STT-8300
Messier Certificate # 2508
My Images: http://www.astrophotogallery.org/u342-hfjacinto.html
Remember to have your clouds spayed or neutered, contrails included.
Quote:I think that in astronomy there are many more than two types of observers, as well as many more than two types of motivation. His analogy makes me say "Pffffffffffffffft!"- Jim
Takahashi FS128, TSA 102, FSQ106N, Losmandy GM-8, Baader Mark V, Leica ASPH, Takahashi, Ethos and Panoptic eyepieces.
Quote:In Stephen O'Meara's 2007 book, Deep Sky Companions: Hidden Treasures, he makes (in keeping with the theme of the book) an analogy between pirates and visual deep sky observers.He describes two tendencies, one he likens to the Barbary pirates in which observers "are primarily interesting in finding and accumulating as many deep-sky objects as possible. They enjoy the challenge of the hunt and are satisfied when their plan of attack succeeds. They are not interested in spending time 'on board' each target, examining it carefully and diligently. After the capture, they figuratively toss the treasure on deck, kick it aside, and sail right on to the next." He adds, "The more treasures they collect, the bigger their bounty, and the happier they become."The other tendency, he likens to "the pirates who sailed the Caribbean and North American waters during the golden age of piracy, whose essence of attack was a mix of lust and leisure." For observers of this persuasion, "the hunt is part of a larger adventure. When we 'capture' a deep-sky object, we do spend time 'on board.' We feel the need to sift deeper, to plumb the depths of each 'hold,' knowing that if we do, if we remain patient, we will be rewarded by the sight of even more riches."Stephen is very clear that both approaches are perfectly fine, after all, this hobby is about having fun. Stephen, of course, counts himself among the latter group. Indeed, when writing his first book in the Deep Sky Companion series, he relates that he often spent as many as three nights on a single object!These two observing patterns are probably best thought as a continuum rather than an either/or demarkation.For myself, I've spent the majority of my first twenty years in astronomy squarely on the extreme of the first group. It was all about the lists and getting those pesky "beginners" Messiers out of the way so I could work on the "real" astronomy held in the Herschel 400.It has only been in the last two years that I've gotten myself to slow down and observe objects. Still, it's hard for me to do. No matter how I try to approach it, the more objects I see a night, the more accomplishment I feel.Much of this is undoubtably due to my personality type. If you're familiar with the Meyers-Briggs, I'm an INTJ and the relevant metric here is the J. J (Judgmental) types love lists. We live by our todo lists. I bring this up to highlight that neither of O'Meara's two approaches are right or wrong, they are just different and where you fit on the continuum may simply reflect your personality and preferences.Where do you reside? Have you drifted from one camp to another over time (and perhaps forcefully) as I have? Are you right in the middle?
AR127 / SV102ED / AT72ED / PCF WP II 12x50 / Monarch7 8x42 / Naked Eye
The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. Henri Bergson
Astro Sky 17.5 Dob
Zhumell Z10 Dob
ES AR127 & Jason 60mm (Towa Optics) on Twilight-II
ES 82 deg 24, 18, 14, 8.8, 6.7, 4.7
Astronomers: We look into the past to see our future.