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"The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom, and the unknown. Some do bow in that final direction. Others advance upon it. To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three."
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Quote:One first has to answer the question: "who is 'We'"?
Quote:"Is" and "ought" are different things, as you know, Dave. While I certainly have my own list of "oughts," I have also concluded that discussing "oughts" in a public forum is useless—especially before there is an agreement on what "is," and in today's globally polarized environment, agreement on even what "is" is impossible.
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Quote:I think we certainly could, one way or the other. But I don't think we have the will to make the commitment.
Quote: There is, I believe, a potentially stronger motivation to re-engage in our attempts to escape the gravity well. I know you've heard me say this before, but the most basic tenet of ecology is that organisms alter their environment. This is neither good nor bad, it's 'nature'. We humans are incredibly capable when it comes to garnering ever more resources to support our exponentially increasing population. So, I postulate that the need for resources is highly likely to motivate exploration.
Quote:There is, I believe, a potentially stronger motivation to re-engage in our attempts to escape the gravity well.
Quote:I love space but I see no reason to make the huge commitment to send men to Mars right now.
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Quote:As Ion propulsion is created for these asteroid chaser drones the most likely candidate would be mars..
--------------------- --------------------- "Nothing exists but atoms and empty space. Everything else is opinion." Titus Lucretius Carus 99-55 B.C.
Quote:Why do we need to send humans to other planets? Why not send robotic missions (also sample return missions)? I am not sure what astronauts will accomplish which robotic landers cannot? The desire to have a human foot-print on the surface of another planet though exciting is not really worth the cost, risk and what could be achieved by undertaking such a mission.
Quote:What will make it worth the cost is the potential for profit.
Quote: Quote:What will make it worth the cost is the potential for profit. Profit? Who would profit? And how?
Quote:I hope they know how to do a cost/benefit analysis.
Yours truly, Bill "Good friends are like stars...you don't always see them, but you know that they are always there" - unknown Binos : Zeiss 10x42 FL, Garrett Optical 20x110, AP Ultra's 15x70, Nikon Gold Sentinel Starvue 7x50 telescope: WO Megrez 110 ED,13mm Ethos, 5mm Pentax XO, 28mm WO, 2x Powermate,CGEM & Canon 50D
Quote:Had a conversation with my cousin recently. I said yes to this question. He was adamant that we (humans) would not. Can't go faster than light... blah... blah... blah...I thought "what a ridiculous viewpoint he has."200 years ago two cousins were having the same conversation about using a rocket to get to the moon. One said it would happen. The other said it would not, and well... we see how that turned out.
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Quote: If we put all our planetary resources and technical skill into the endeavor, I am willing to bet we could build a generational starship that could span the gulf to the next nearest solar system.
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"After the Laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Quote:In the future we will have no choice. Earth won't be habitable forever. When that time comes we either move orgo extinct.
Quote: In the future we will have no choice. Earth won't be habitable forever. When that time comes we either move orgo extinct.