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frank5817
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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Dee]
      #2742648 - 11/09/08 11:59 AM

Dee,

Even your first sketches are wonderful. The moon from early in this year looks like it is made of moon crust. Great Stuff!

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: WadeVC]
      #2742725 - 11/09/08 12:48 PM Attachment (120 downloads)

Great topic and very useful and interesting for all of us--thanks, Rony! This thread demonstrates what a great place the Web is for learning (more on that later).

I didn't sketch my observations until the year 2000 when it dawned on me that it would improve my observing skills (still the best reason to sketch, imo). Very rudimentary at first, my interest in sketching really took off during the 2003 Mars apparition when I met veteran observers Carlos Hernandez and Jeff Beish via the Internet over on Astromart. They were posting sketches and discussing their Mars observations and were quite welcoming to novices like me. Sol Robbins was also posting on AM and it was clear that he was going to be Rookie of the Year. I thought what they were doing was very cool and I wanted to do it too.

Because of web discussions there and then later here on CN, I learned about using templates, blending stumps, paper, web presentation, and a host of other media and techniques. My learning continues everytime I log on. I've also made some lasting friendships and had some great times sharing sketches, observations, ideas, and anecdotes.

So here are my first sketches. Check out the Mars sketch--I'll post my most recent Mars observation as a comparison.

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Michael Rosolina
Celestron CGE Pro 1400 f/11 SCT
1980 Orange Tube C8 f/10 SCT
4.25" f/4.2 Astroscan Reflector
50mm f/10 Galileoscope
40mm PST f/10
APM Germany HD 15x70 binoculars
Canon 12x36 IS II binoculars
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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Special Ed]
      #2742733 - 11/09/08 12:50 PM Attachment (118 downloads)

From early 2008

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Michael Rosolina
Celestron CGE Pro 1400 f/11 SCT
1980 Orange Tube C8 f/10 SCT
4.25" f/4.2 Astroscan Reflector
50mm f/10 Galileoscope
40mm PST f/10
APM Germany HD 15x70 binoculars
Canon 12x36 IS II binoculars
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markseibold
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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Dee]
      #2743106 - 11/09/08 04:54 PM

Dee

Beautiful! You have used a sense of brevity in capturing the important features, leaving out the scattering of thousands of minor craters in the central area. The sign of a great artist! I like the three dimensional effect as you seemed to utilize illumination and 'angle of incidence of light' very well. Unlike me, I try to include every detail in my whole moon sketches and thus tend to overwork my sketch at times.

I am not sure what Rony meant by our very first sketch but it is a great idea as a post to be learned from as we share our early attempts; possibly a good tutorial here for amateurs to glean from. Your lunar art here reminds me of some of the attempts that I have made in the past few months as my first for the whole moon category. I guess I could post one here as a first lunar sketch but I made a rough one a couple years ago before I knew of the CN site (it can be seen in my latter gallery pages joined to a Saturn sketch and the artists hand in the sketch- link below.) Yours also reminds me of the quality in the full image renderings that Rich Handy is known for. I started exclusively with the solar surface through an h-alpha filtered telescope in October 2006 after seeing Erika Rix and Les Cowley’s sketch work in Spaceweather.com and just recently discovered the moon as an art form. There are just so many more surface details to render from the moon that I am stuck on it now.

I guess I have missed your posts and your gallery. I'll have to take a look. I am still one who has never used Conte yet as I have favored only dry pastel chalks. The blending on your lunar sketch here is great. I would look forward to hearing something about your technique and methods with Conte. (Is this Conte Crayon? I accidentally used it on my last entry, then did not know how to blend it as I do with dry pastel chalk.) Also, can you indicate the paper format type and size and the lunar disc diameter?

Thanks for sharing this,

Mark

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http://www.cloudynights.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=37924&cat=500


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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: almaach]
      #2744586 - 11/10/08 02:34 PM

Hi Almach,

Thank you for your participation with your first sketch!

And an excellent last sketch as well.

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Dee]
      #2744607 - 11/10/08 02:48 PM

Hi Dee!

Thank you so much for your story and these wonderful sketches!


I guess that a small tutorial on your last sketch will interest all of us.

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Special Ed]
      #2744638 - 11/10/08 03:04 PM

Michael,

Nice story!

Thank you for going back in time and sharing your first sketches.

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2745534 - 11/11/08 01:29 AM

This is my first sketch and record.



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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Douner]
      #2746464 - 11/11/08 03:32 PM Attachment (100 downloads)

Hi Kim, and Welcome to the forum.

In case your sketch does not show up properly, I have included it in this reply.
Am I right that it is the central region of the Orion nebula?

It is a great first sketch.

Can you tell us when was it made, and what your equipment is?

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Rony

'The Casual Sky Observer's Guide.'

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2772471 - 11/26/08 08:15 PM

My first sketches made just last night:

And here is NGC 205 after I digitized it:


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10" f/5 Hardin Dobsonian
32mm Q70
17mm Hyperion
13mm Stratus (For Sale)
8mm Hyperion
6mm TMB Planetary
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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Steven Dennis]
      #2774004 - 11/27/08 04:53 PM

Hello Steven,

Welcome to the forum!

Thank you for sharing these first sketches of yours. Looks like you had a wonderful observing session.

I would say that you made a very good start and I hope to see more sketches from your hand.

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Rony

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2794217 - 12/08/08 06:13 PM

Rony

I wish I could find my [very first] as that would probably be from about 1970 as a 16 year old as I observed Mars on a close approach year through my first telescope; a Tasco 60mm refractor, and was able to see some surface markings and the south polar cap. I did it in color on school notebook paper. That sketch is possibly in storage somewhere as I moved recently.

If you mean my very first that is from adult life and it was published no less to Spaceweather.com's front page for several days which then started a sketching contest in the site on my suggestion to NASA's Dr. Tony Phillips. Yes there is a full circle story to this. I was inspired to do it when I saw Erika's and Les Cowley's black and white solar sketches in Spaceweather that afternoon. I remade mine in color pastels later that night from memory from an earlier pencil sketch and live observation through my solar telescope which I have never posted- It is a two image sketch as the solar prominence changed over 20 minutes, so this is an exclusive to your posted thread here today. Something I have never posted or shared as yet.

Following the pencil sketch is the famed wild pastel abstract that stunned the world in Spaceweather, which I did on a scrap of old wrinkled 11" X 14" black pastel paper. It stunned the world, weaned on mostly digital photos in Spaceweather before this work. A few days later another of my surreal pastels apeared in APOD- I have received many unusual responses to that one; The Hand Drawn Transit of Mercury on Nov 8 2006- APOD ran it on Nov 17 2006- This version also has attached, the several photo images I took of the sun over some months; the second from left is the event that I sketched- The prominence at 9 o'clock position -Mark



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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: markseibold]
      #2795158 - 12/09/08 10:01 AM

Mark,

Thank you for your kind support on this threat! Your 'field sketch' is a great example of how to record fast changing features with pencils, and how a field sketch can be turned into a beautiful pastel sketch.

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Rony

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: markseibold]
      #2806020 - 12/15/08 05:56 AM Attachment (106 downloads)

My first one, almost exactly 2 years ago:

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Roel]
      #2806021 - 12/15/08 05:58 AM Attachment (120 downloads)

And my most recent one (a few days ago):

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: Roel]
      #2812985 - 12/18/08 04:55 PM

Hi Roel,

Thank you for the sketches!

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2869644 - 01/16/09 06:51 PM Attachment (117 downloads)

This was my first sketch (other than a few almost-blank solar discs), and shows Barnard's Galaxy through a 4.5" f8 reflector & 21mm EP.

The sketch was obviously done so long ago that it was before dates were invented, and the reference to "Starry Night" probably dates it to before light pollution existed. Nah, actually some time last year...

Cheers -

Rob

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: RobK]
      #2871352 - 01/17/09 04:43 PM

Nice first sketch and a very fine object as well, Rob!


Makes me wonder how dark your skies are?

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2871618 - 01/17/09 06:42 PM

Quote:

Nice first sketch and a very fine object as well, Rob!


Makes me wonder how dark your skies are?




Thanks Rony! I live on the edge of a small town in rural Victoria, and apart from a modest 'light bubble' in the SW I have good dark skies, often mag 6+. Barnard's Galaxy is a large, very LSB object and not something you'd normally chase with a 4.5" reflector. It took a lot of teasing out, hence I thought that I should record my observation with a sketch (rough as it is, LOL!).

Cheers -

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Re: Post your very first sketch over here! new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2878572 - 01/21/09 02:19 AM

There's no way I can show my "very first" sketch; that was made over 40 years ago when I was a teenager. I'm sure it no longer exists.

Here's the first one I've made since the late 1960's, though.

Be gentle...



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