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CESDewar
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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: tonyhuynh]
      #1639052 - 06/02/07 03:06 AM

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Hi CESDewar....I was wondering why for any particular reason you did not go with the PoewerSwitch for your DenkII?




No, the one's I have do have the power-switch. I have commented that the three power-switch settings are very far from being parfocal - you have to rack the focusser a long way between the settings, which takes away a little bit from the convenience, but it's still less effort than swapping EP's.

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tonyhuynh
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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: kfred]
      #1640992 - 06/03/07 09:24 AM

Thanks Joe....Paul.. Fred...and CESDewar...

All are very helpful....I wiil put these comments in my notes for reviews when I buy...thanks

Tony

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Telescopes:
Stellarvue 90 Triplet CaF; Celestron 80ED Doublet
William Optics Megrez 72 ED Doublet; Pentax 80ED Spotting Scope
Binoculars:
Orion Resolux 10.5x70 (BA8 series); Orion Resolux 7x50 (BA8 series)
Orion Mini Giant 9x63; Celestron Regals 8x42; Vortex Fury 6.5x32; Papilio 6.5x21


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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: tonyhuynh]
      #1644228 - 06/05/07 12:07 AM

Kinda late here, but TV rep John Rhodes replied to a similar question on the TV Yahoo! forum recently. Here's the link:

Link

Hope this helps someone.

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Jim

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Joe Ogiba
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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: MacRoberts]
      #1645250 - 06/05/07 03:26 PM

I think I will just get a pair of 15mm Axiom LX 82° eyepieces and save about a grand.

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Pentax PF-80ED,Meade 102ED APO,Orion EON 72,120ST
Apex 127,C6 XLT,CR150,C9.25,XT10 ,Celestron Regal 100 F-ED, CT152
Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Darren Hiebert
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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: tonyhuynh]
      #1646874 - 06/06/07 01:26 PM

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Does anyone think it is possible to binoview with the new Ethos eyepieces...




I was able to get a measurement of the diameter of the Ethos from a photograph of it next to a 13mm T6 Nagler in the new Cloudy Nights review. The diameter of the Ethos is approximately 64mm (+/- 1mm). This means that you would have to have an IPD of at least this much. Furthermore, you will have no nose relief whatsoever, so anyone known as "big nose" isn't going to find it comfortable for binoviewing.

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tonyhuynh
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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: Darren Hiebert]
      #1652007 - 06/08/07 10:43 PM

Thanks Jim...for the link

Thanks Joe...

Thanks Darren.... I guess your calculation pretty much eliminate this as a possiblity.....although I did see a pic of David Nagler using Ethos in a binoviewer....

Tony

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Stellarvue 90 Triplet CaF; Celestron 80ED Doublet
William Optics Megrez 72 ED Doublet; Pentax 80ED Spotting Scope
Binoculars:
Orion Resolux 10.5x70 (BA8 series); Orion Resolux 7x50 (BA8 series)
Orion Mini Giant 9x63; Celestron Regals 8x42; Vortex Fury 6.5x32; Papilio 6.5x21


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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: tonyhuynh]
      #1652138 - 06/09/07 01:01 AM Attachment (54 downloads)

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Does anyone think it is possible to binoview with the new Ethos eyepieces and how do you think such a view will be? thanks.
Tony





It would be possible, though tight. I have the next closest thing to mm's and size (physical), though only 80 degrees. The 12mm Speers are really fantastic in my shortened 105mm f15 refractor (no corrector). Without a doubt the best EP pairs I have ever looked through in a bino-viewer.

Bino-viewing can be really subjective:
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I don't know about them, but I don't enjoy even 70 degrees.



Like John just said, he doesn't enjoy it at 70, but his combo might not have been the best even though he may have had very expensive EP's. Others may have found it very good...just like the dual Speers 12mm 80's that I use...very easy to use and very comfortable. Its fun to look around a bit, you can really get lost in the views.

Of course from the photo, you can see just how close the EP's are, the Ethos are a little bigger in diameter and may touch, if used in a bino-viewer like my Burgess.

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Re: Binoview with ETHOS possible? new [Re: Paul G]
      #1652343 - 06/09/07 07:01 AM

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In addition to the 24 Pans, my wide field binoviewing eyepiece set includes the 16, 13, 11, 9, 7 and 5 Naglers.




After reading this I came across a good deal on a 13mm Nagler T6. Since I already had one I thought what the heck, might be cool in the Mark V.

NOPE. Spacewalk effect totally gone. Not pleasing at all with a VERY fuzzy field stop. Actually seemed more constrictive AFoV than the 15mm Panoptic pairs.

I think I am going to try a pair of 12.5mm Tak LE's next.

clear skies,
Rick

Edited by Rick (06/09/07 08:14 AM)


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