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ones
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Best GOTO mount
      #3132634 - 05/28/09 04:35 PM

Being a newby, I would like to hear who makes the best goto mount. Not looking to start trouble. Just looking for information. The search function returns a lot of posts! My only experience is with a Meade ETX125PE. Not the best of results for me. After following ALL of the suggestions i'm in the market for something that works better. Not to slam Meade. The optics are great. Any help would be appreciated.


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Kev

ETX 125PE


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David PavlichAdministrator
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: ones]
      #3132791 - 05/28/09 05:54 PM

I would put Astro-Physics and Paramount as the top brands. Takahashi and Mountain Instruments are very close to that level of performance.

After that, Losmandy and Celestron. However, you have to also take into account the reason for having the mount. For the casual user needing to do visual with about a 30# loading, it's hard to beat Celestron's CG5-GT. And Orion's Atlas is always in the conversation.

But if you want the absolute last bit of tracking nirvana, it gets really expensive. But it sure is a real joy to use these mecahnical marvels.

It's no different than any other hobby. You have to weigh budget against the need for "it works well enough" or "I want it to work REALLY well".

David

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johnfdean
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3132968 - 05/28/09 07:39 PM

Of course the is the issue. The best for what purpose with what scope?

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Celestron C6 f/5 by Vixen with Polaris GEM
14" Tscope dob f/4.7 with Argo Navis
80mm Nighthawk on Eq 2
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: johnfdean]
      #3133149 - 05/28/09 09:42 PM

Your question is much like asking who makes the best car in the world. If there was an actual BEST mount made, then all of us would know about it and all of us would own only one mount...the best one. As it is I own 4 mounts and I'm looking at another one.

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LLEEGE
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: Al Canarelli]
      #3133270 - 05/28/09 11:01 PM

Lets see, I've owned:
1- CG5ASGT
2- LXD75 x's 2
3- CGE x's 2
4- CGEM
5- AP900 x's 2
6- AP1200 x's 2
They were each the best for what I wanted at the time. And no, I'm not a gear junkie.

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A wise man once said........nothing.

A good mount
A few good OTA's
A few good EP's
A decent camera
Crappy skies


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Rusty
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #3133337 - 05/28/09 11:54 PM

Quote:

They were each the best for what I wanted at the time. And no, I'm not a gear junkie.






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N11GPS Fastar//TOA-130S//MK66 Std//AT6RC//Vintage C5//Megrez II 80mm APO//SolarMax 40
NJP Temma II//Sirius EQ-G
Too Many Astro-Cameras//Mallincam Color Hyper Plus
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g__day
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: Rusty]
      #3133614 - 05/29/09 06:58 AM


I'd guess the Astro-Physics 3600 or Paramount ME used to be top (except for the really high end Tak EM-3500 mounts). I ponder the Astelco NTM-500 - massive carrying capacity, 100 degree a sec slew rate, no PE, 1 arc sec pointing all sky, ability to take many hours long shots at long focal length - unguided, makes it the undisputed leader in the below $50K mark.

http://www.astelco.com/products/ntm/ntm.htm

or
http://www.darkhorseobservatory.org/index.php?CategoryID=69


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Chris Curran
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: g__day]
      #3133622 - 05/29/09 07:12 AM

The BEST mount, hands down:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090525.html

It even makes everything listed above look like junk...

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cheers & beers,
Chris
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ones
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: Al Canarelli]
      #3133634 - 05/29/09 07:25 AM

Quote:

Your question is much like asking who makes the best car in the world. If there was an actual BEST mount made, then all of us would know about it and all of us would own only one mount...the best one. As it is I own 4 mounts and I'm looking at another one.




Gee, that about narrows it down

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Kev

ETX 125PE


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starbob1
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: ones]
      #3133717 - 05/29/09 08:41 AM

You can of set your self up for this.If your on a budget under $1500'The new celestron cgem is the hot mount right now.Also you should have stated for visual or astrophotgraphy'that makes a big difference.BOB

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Tak Shack Observatory
Zhumell z12
AT 111mm APO
CGEM
WO BINOS

350D modified
CGE MOUNT
ST-80


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AlienRatDog
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: starbob1]
      #3133756 - 05/29/09 09:04 AM

Yep all depends on what you want. I personally do not like GOTO, learn the sky, or if you need some help, digital setting circles. I can push faster than any of the 3-5 deg/sec mounts or even my LX200, unless I am being slow that day, lol. Well I don't think I can beat that really fast slewing mount I saw a while back in a video, ASA is it? Ok I will stop rambling...

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Abe -- the poor PhD student (candidate now!)
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12" LX200GPS-SMT w/UHTC
Celestron CPC800XLT w/ Feathertouch 2" Crayford
Orion ED100 w/ Moonlight 2.5" Crayford, Orion ST80
Celestron AS-GT GEM, Vixen Star Guy Pro, FM18 fluid head
Nagler 31mm, 17mm, 13mm, 12mm, 9mm, 2.5x Powermate
Oberwerk 15x70 binoculars
Understanding wife
One beautiful daughter, Emma-Rose (born 7-29-2009)
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Bowmoreman
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: AlienRatDog]
      #3133933 - 05/29/09 10:32 AM

As with many things in life (that are manufactured precision instruments anyway), you'll find it pretty much tracks with price...

My progression?

EXT90 - GoTo was really "go somwhere, maybe close, maybe not"
Vixen Sphinx SXW - GoTo was "go TO" in wider angle EPs, tracking ok, limited capacity
CGE - GoTo was "near center FOV in all EPs.. tracking good, capacity good, but wanted more
MI-250 - GoTo is functionally perfect, Tracking excellent, great capacity - MAY be my last mount

I know that AP1200 is better still, and likely too are the even more expensive ones, e.g. Paramount, or uber-high end Takahashis, etc...

It's all relative...

clear enough skies

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Dave

MI250 SBS mounted: C11Hyperstar,FSQ106ED,TOA130NFB;Lunt60THaB1200FT/DS50
Visual:DM6, XT10i w/ZambutoMirror,RTP
EP: 31T5, Ethos (21,17,13&8),10XW,5XW,3.5XW; Paracorr T1
MallincamColorHyper+,QSI583WS,QHY8
SBIG STV eFinder
Denk II: (2x24Pan,2x10XW)
Gerbings Heated clothes, Wilder Skies Observatory (BYO#90), Speco9"Monitor


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DeanS
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: Bowmoreman]
      #3133944 - 05/29/09 10:40 AM

Quote:

As with many things in life (that are manufactured precision instruments anyway), you'll find it pretty much tracks with price...




I agree with the above, good optics on a poor mount gets you no where. poor optics on a great mount at leasts gets you round stars

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AP900GTO, AP1200GTO,
Tak Epsilon 160, FS60C, SV80
12.5" F/3.8 AGO Newtonian,
C9.25, 8" LX200GPS,
18" Starmaster w/Zambuto F/4.3,
FLI ML8300,
QSI640WSG-8
ST2000XM, Lodestars
Some Uncle Al's glass hand grenades


www.doghouseastronomy.com







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hfjacinto
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: DeanS]
      #3133967 - 05/29/09 10:56 AM

The best mount is the one you use

I have the LXD 75 and C GC5 and both are good, not great. But they are both reasonable and work well, what else do I want?

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Scopes: Celestron 9.25, Orion 80MM and 120MM EON Apo
Solar: Lunt LS60THa/PT/B1200/50DS
Binos: Canon 15X50 IS
Mounts: CGEM and LXD75
Eyepieces: Explore Scientific,Meade, Axiom and TeleVue
Camera: Orion Deep Sky StarShoot V2, DMK 41
Messier Certificate # 2508
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phanf4
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: Chris Curran]
      #3134072 - 05/29/09 11:56 AM

Quote:

The BEST mount, hands down:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090525.html

It even makes everything listed above look like junk...




Can't wait to see this eclipsed

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Tom,

Wife,Kids
CGE
C-11
1984 C8 'Orange' OTA
SV 80mm Nighthawk
STF-8300M,Astrodon LRGB
SSAG/PHD
EPs/Powermate
Way to much Stuff and more...Stuff


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LLEEGE
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: DeanS]
      #3134073 - 05/29/09 11:58 AM

Quote:

Quote:

As with many things in life (that are manufactured precision instruments anyway), you'll find it pretty much tracks with price...




I agree with the above, good optics on a poor mount gets you no where. poor optics on a great mount at leasts gets you round stars


Maybe not round, but not trails.

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A wise man once said........nothing.

A good mount
A few good OTA's
A few good EP's
A decent camera
Crappy skies


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PhilG
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #3134195 - 05/29/09 01:06 PM

Like LLEEGE "I'm not a gear junkie".

But, I have owned a BUNCH of different mounts and I would say the AP Mach1GTO has got to be in the running for the best mount when you factor in price, load capacity, performance, portability and looks.

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TEC, Stellarvue, Celestron, WO
AP, Takahashi, Apogee , Explora-Dome
http://www.infiniti-eng.com/astrophotos

Edited by PhilG (05/29/09 03:10 PM)


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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: PhilG]
      #3134266 - 05/29/09 01:48 PM

Quote:

But, I have owned a BUNCH of different mounts and I would say the AP Mach1GTO has got to be in the running for the best mount when you factor in price, load capacity, performance and portability.




I'll second that vote. The AP Mach1GTO is a super mount and it even looks cool enough that my wife lets me keep it in the family room.

This could be the last mount I ever need.

Ron

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Time spent looking at the stars is added to your life
My beloved Bashful, Misty, and little Ralphie - they are my heavenly stars

AAVSO - Sustaining Member
TEC 140 ~ STF-Mirage 8" Mak ~ 8"f/6 Zambuto Newt
A-P Mach1 ~ Losmandy GM-8


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PhilG
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: RAKing]
      #3134405 - 05/29/09 03:11 PM

Quote:

I'll second that vote. The AP Mach1GTO is a super mount and it even looks cool enough that my wife lets me keep it in the family room.





OK, Ron, I edited my post.


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Mark Jenkins
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Re: Best GOTO mount new [Re: PhilG]
      #3134694 - 05/29/09 06:05 PM

I will third the vote for the AP Mach1 GTO.

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Astro-Physics 130mm f6.3 StarFire EDF 'Gran Turismo'
Astro-Physics AP Mach1 GTO
EarthWin PFS-B
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