Ed Jones
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 04/06/04
Posts: 2232
Loc: Sin-sin-atti
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Don't say hijacked!!
I posted pictures of it about a year ago but I couldn't find it in search so maybe it was over a year ago. I can start a new thread but you can also find pictures on my website too.
-------------------- Ed Jones
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spaceghost
super member
Reged: 01/04/07
Posts: 154
Loc: Olathe, KS
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I finished this my first-ever telescope to look through or own last month, a 5" f/8 with mirrors I bought on ebay. I've been adjusting since. I posted a picture last month over in the refractor forum, not realizing the forums were segregated, but the kind folks there set me straight.
I got frustrated not being able to find anything except the moon, Saturn, and Orion, so I bought a big finder for it. Major rebalance for the finder, had to scoot the altitude bearings up from center about 1.5". Finder-to-telescope ratio is overdone, but the finder is nice to look through, and the telescope is a great mount for it. My goal is to someday build the biggest telescope I can conveniently set up by myself, and move the finder there.
Nice things so far I like about my telescope:
1. It's easy to set up. 2. It's motions are smooth and stable. 3. I can sit in a chair and comfortably look through either the big finder or the telescope without moving, all the way from horizon to zenith. 4. The view is superb, I'm way impressed. I'm hooked on astronomy now.
The moon's about to come up, my scope has been chilling outside for a couple hours and if the clouds are thin enough I might get a look. I've read about the new telescope curse, and I'm a believer. Someone should post how-to instructions for proper ceremonies and hecatombs to prevent and/or chase the curse.
-------------------- Justin
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Chriske
Kijkerbouw Urania
Reged: 08/15/04
Posts: 2317
Loc: Boechout, Belgium
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Could we have closer peek at that focuser. How do you focus..? Nice scope btw.
-------------------- Chris
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spaceghost
super member
Reged: 01/04/07
Posts: 154
Loc: Olathe, KS
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The focuser is a piece of 1/2" oak that I drilled a 1.25" hole through and split one end. I put a long bolt with wing nut through the split end to act as a clamp. I push-pull the eyepiece to focus, then tighten the clamp to hold it. My inspiration was the PVC tube in the book Making and Enjoying Telescopes.
The moon and Saturn shone through the high thin clouds and I got to look at them. The new-telescope curse let up just a little this evening.
I have 20, 26, and 32 mm eyepieces and it works great for those, but I'm guessing it won't work as well for the higher-power eyepieces I want to get in the future. I plan to replace it with a commercial focuser, because my viewing eye is extremely nearsighted. I mounted the primary to achieve focus without my glasses, and with my glasses on I run out of focuser range, therefore I won't be able to share the view with others.
-------------------- Justin
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spaceghost
super member
Reged: 01/04/07
Posts: 154
Loc: Olathe, KS
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OK where'd my focuser picture go. Here's another try.
-------------------- Justin
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Vesper818
Astronomess
Reged: 11/21/05
Posts: 2785
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Beri~ I love your list of materials. This is tradition at its very best... Scrounge ATM!!! LCC
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Art Bianconi
Post Laureate
Reged: 03/06/06
Posts: 4659
Loc: Delaware River Valley, New Jer...
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Here is something you can try and you only risk about $5.00. You'll find it in the plumbing department of any home center.
Here it was next to a JMI (dusty!) Crayford type focuser. it's flared at the top and is almost a perfect fit for a 1.25" EP.
About the only thing you might have to do to snug up the EP's is a thin piece of aluminum flashing on the inside of the wider section. (It's about 1.28" ID)
It comes with a closely fitted threaded collar and a base you can attach to your wood block. It also has a smooth nylon gasket that makes it really smooth to move. All for under $5.00!
This is probably the least expensive scope you will ever build. It is also the one you are likely to remember forever and never throw out!
Welcome to the world of ATM'ing and astronomy!
Art
BTW: One thing you will learn about this hobby is that there is no such thing as a telescope that is finished!
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spaceghost
super member
Reged: 01/04/07
Posts: 154
Loc: Olathe, KS
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Thanks for that picture! I'll hunt that part down. My mind is churning now on a focuser rebuild. That would be more fun than buying a focuser, and if it doesn't turn out I can always buy later. Instead of the flashing I might try strips from a beer can.
-------------------- Justin
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Art Bianconi
Post Laureate
Reged: 03/06/06
Posts: 4659
Loc: Delaware River Valley, New Jer...
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If the pressure from the focus axle is not too high, the chrome plated brass tube will work fine in a home made Crayford.
It has to be a very low profile one however or you must tell NEWT you have a tall focuser so it will position the focuser closer to the primary.
The reason for this is that the eyepiece only goes down into the tube as far as the 1.25" section. You can't focus the tube below that. The larger diameter hits the base.
If you design it from the very beginning as a scope with a tall focuser, "no problemo".
If you decide after you buy it that you've changed your mind, you can always notch it, fit a elliptical plane inside, slip a laser collimator in the top and use that for the slickest precise collimation's you've ever done for five bucks!
Art
-------------------- “Everything is on its way to somewhere. . . . . everything!"
____________________ George Malley (John Travolta)
________________________ "Phenomenon"
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dawsonian2000
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/26/06
Posts: 1434
Loc: Riverview, FL, USA
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Thanks for the thumbs up, Chris... this is definitely a very stable wooden fork mount. Now I am ready for a clock drive.
Thanks again, Mel
-------------------- Clear Skies, Forever!
The Vega Sky Center
10" (254mm) F/5.65 Homebuilt Fork Mounted Newtonian Reflector
5" (127mm) F/9.4 Homebuilt Refractor
4" (100mm) F/13 Carton Homebuilt Refractor
3.1" (80mm) F/6 Scopos ED APO Refractor
4.5" (114mm) F/8 Tasco 11te-5 Newtonian (under restoration)
2.4" (60mm) F/16.7 Tasco 7te-5 Refractor
2.4" (60mm) F/15 Jason Discoverer 313 Refractor
http://www.vega-sky-center.com
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dawsonian2000
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/26/06
Posts: 1434
Loc: Riverview, FL, USA
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How true you are, Art. I just labeled my telescope as "Finished", but quickly came up with some more ideas to improve it. BTW - Your support to Astronomical community is awesome!
-------------------- Clear Skies, Forever!
The Vega Sky Center
10" (254mm) F/5.65 Homebuilt Fork Mounted Newtonian Reflector
5" (127mm) F/9.4 Homebuilt Refractor
4" (100mm) F/13 Carton Homebuilt Refractor
3.1" (80mm) F/6 Scopos ED APO Refractor
4.5" (114mm) F/8 Tasco 11te-5 Newtonian (under restoration)
2.4" (60mm) F/16.7 Tasco 7te-5 Refractor
2.4" (60mm) F/15 Jason Discoverer 313 Refractor
http://www.vega-sky-center.com
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dawsonian2000
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/26/06
Posts: 1434
Loc: Riverview, FL, USA
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Chris,
Eric did a fantastic job of covering the construction of his 12.5" Newt on Cloudy Nights., as Art points out. Being a Fork Mount enthusiast myself, I was so inspired with his mount design that I created a kind of a step-by-step photographic expose' of it on my website. You can check it out here: http://www.vega-sky-center.com/index_eric_m.html
-------------------- Clear Skies, Forever!
The Vega Sky Center
10" (254mm) F/5.65 Homebuilt Fork Mounted Newtonian Reflector
5" (127mm) F/9.4 Homebuilt Refractor
4" (100mm) F/13 Carton Homebuilt Refractor
3.1" (80mm) F/6 Scopos ED APO Refractor
4.5" (114mm) F/8 Tasco 11te-5 Newtonian (under restoration)
2.4" (60mm) F/16.7 Tasco 7te-5 Refractor
2.4" (60mm) F/15 Jason Discoverer 313 Refractor
http://www.vega-sky-center.com
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jgraham
Postmaster
Reged: 12/02/04
Posts: 11575
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
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Someone was asking about these and I promised to post an image, so here it is.
The telescope on the left is a 10” f/6.7 I built in 1976. The telescope is an open-tube box structure built from ˝” plywood and 2x2’s. The open-tube design was selected to reduce the weight and move the center of gravity towards the mirror to reduce the length of the tines. The mount is a polar disk where the north bearing is a 24” diameter disk built-up from three layers of ˝” plywood. The fork is fabricated from 2x8’s while the base is built from ˝” plywood and 2x6’s. The polar disk rides on two Teflon rollers (steel would also work, rubber wheels are too soft) while the south bearing is just the threads of the 1-1/2” pipe shaft screwed into a flange. The dec bearing are 1-1/2” PVC unions pressed into the tines. The dec shafts are 1-1/2” galvanized pipes attached to the OTA with flanges. The PVC unions were filed out to provide a smooth fit to the pipes, then greased. This mount was selected as an equatorial that could handle the weight of the OTA and not require any machined parts. The telescope gave excellent service for 30 years, but the OTA was recently retired so I could rebuild it out of much lighter materials.
The telescope on the right is a 16.5” f/6.7 ground, polished, and figured by hand in 1998. The OTA is an open box structure built from a mix of 3/16” hardwood veneered plywood, 2x2’s and 1x1’s. The struts are thin 2x2 angle aluminum re-enforced on the ends with short lengths of 2x2x1/8” angle aluminum. The mount is fairly standard except that all of the bearings rotate on pads made from polyester bunting. This displaces the load over a very high surface area providing a relatively smooth bearing despite the substantial weight. This OTA design was selected so that it would break-down into parts small enough to easily move in and out of my house or into the back of a small station wagon. Much to my surprise the OTA of the 16.5” has proven very rigid and has held collimation perfectly since it was first aligned about 8 years ago.
One feature both telescopes share is wheels built into their bases to make it easy to roll them on hard surfaces, though they’re tough to move on grass. The 10” isn’t too bad, but I have a set of plywood tracks I lay on the ground to move the 16.5”.
An interesting surprise is that although I built the 16.5” as a deepsky telescope my favorite object to view through this telescope is the Moon. The tremendous resolution and image scale makes the Moon truly look like a place full of rolling hills, mountains, and valleys. The other surprise was the beautiful colors I can see in faint stars. This is a fun instrument just to scan across the sky with. Since I started imaging I love to set my 16.5” up out in the yard while taking pictures with my LXD75 SN6. Once I know what I’m looking for with the imaging system I’ve found I can see much more visually through the big scope.
-John
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The best advice on imaging I've ever been given... don't forget to look!
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jgraham
Postmaster
Reged: 12/02/04
Posts: 11575
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
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My smallest homebuilt telescope; a 40mm (clear aperture) f5.6 Copyscope. The tube is rolled from flat black foam-core art board water proofed with clear shipping tape. I built this little telescope to watch artificial satellites (note the masking tape setting 'circles' on the tripod head) and it has also proven to be a fine grab’n go telescope.
-John
-------------------- -John
The best advice on imaging I've ever been given... don't forget to look!
Edited by jgraham (02/06/07 03:16 PM)
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Denis
sage
Reged: 12/24/05
Posts: 243
Loc: Rennes, France
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Here's mine for posterity 
250/F4,8. 16 Kg and 4 minutes to be operational.
Denis
-------------------- Canon 10x42 IS binoculars.
Meade sc 4" on homemade fork equatorial mount.
homemade 10" and 14" dobsonian
Nikon photogear.
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Bill McHale
professor emeritus
Reged: 11/07/04
Posts: 582
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Quote:
Here's mine for posterity
250/F4,8. 16 Kg and 4 minutes to be operational.
Denis
That scopes looks great. Quick question, what is the size of the split ring mount? specifically, the size of the ring
-------------------- Bill
186,000 MPS, its not just a good idea, its the law.
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Alan1956
super member
Reged: 02/07/05
Posts: 157
Loc: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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This has been such a great idea! Thanks to those who have already posted. They have been great!
Here's a copy of my toy. It's a 16" f4.5, which fits in the trunk of my car.
Alan Scott
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Denis
sage
Reged: 12/24/05
Posts: 243
Loc: Rennes, France
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Quote:
what is the size of the split ring mount? specifically, the size of the ring
the ring diameter is 60 cm. you can find some details here But you 'll need google to translate 
Denis
-------------------- Canon 10x42 IS binoculars.
Meade sc 4" on homemade fork equatorial mount.
homemade 10" and 14" dobsonian
Nikon photogear.
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PierreDesvaux
Vendor (Dobsonian Factory)
Reged: 11/06/06
Posts: 186
Loc: Paris, France
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Waouh! What a fantastic collection of nice things...
Well, here is mine...A 16" inch dobson, minimalist, but extremely rigid and stable:
For all details, it's here: http://dobson.2005.googlepages.com/home
Edited by PierreDesvaux (02/07/07 05:55 AM)
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rboe
Reged: 03/16/02
Posts: 63466
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Nicely done Pierre.
-------------------- Ron
NS11GPS
Pronto
16" dob
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Coronado SolarMax 40 on a Celestron 102 Wide Field
Best of ATM
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