Gregory
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Hello all,
Speaking of books -- does anyone have a favorite astronomy/astrophysics text suitable for, say, undergraduate non-majors (or those just beginning to explore the possibility of majoring in astronomy)? I have the Zeilik & Smith text "Introductory Astronomy and Astrophysics", but find it a bit desultory and inconsistently mathematical, by which I mean they frequently mix simpler mathematical formulae with more complex formulae which have little introduction or explanation.
So, something mathematical, but more organized, with perhaps more recent information that Z&S 2nd or 3rd editions? Even a combination of two texts that meet the criteria would be fine.
Gregory
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Hello all,
Speaking of books -- does anyone have a favorite astronomy/astrophysics text suitable for, say, undergraduate non-majors (or those just beginning to explore the possibility of majoring in astronomy)? I have the Zeilik & Smith text "Introductory Astronomy and Astrophysics", but find it a bit desultory and inconsistently mathematical, by which I mean they frequently mix simpler mathematical formulae with more complex formulae which have little introduction or explanation.
So, something mathematical, but more organized, with perhaps more recent information that Z&S 2nd or 3rd editions? Even a combination of two texts that meet the criteria would be fine.
Gregory
You know, I was just going to cite that very book, as it is several editions beyond the original one I used for my 2-semester Introductory Astronomy and Astrophysics course I took when getting my degree. The current edition still has its faults, but it still can be quite useful, and I still refer to it from time to time. I don't know of one which rolls as much as it does into one neat package. Clear skies to you.
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Universe, Freedman and Kaufmann
Link will give you more info.
Excellent end-of-chapter questions and topics for further reading.
It's the textbook I wish I had had.
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Gregory
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Thanks Don, looks like a good one. William J. Kaufmann, IMHO, is always worth reading.
Gregory
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JohanK
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Another one: The Cosmic Perspective
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TomC10
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I was thinking of posting a recommendation on an introductory astrophysics book. Modern Astrophysics by Bradley W. Carroll and Dale A. Ostlie. I bought the 1996 1st Edition about 2 years ago for ~$99, I see they have a 2nd Edition (2006) out now but I have not read that book.
This book seems to be used as the text for several undergraduate astrophysics classes I've found online. I think it is great! It covers a wide spectrum of stellar astrophysics, astronomy, planetary science topics, galaxies and cosmology. Its serious enough to have equations for hydrostatic models, dimensional analysis, introduces spectral analysis - a little bit of everything, but very simple examples and treatments. In a word this book is 'Great' for those of us studying astrophysics etc, on our own.
Oh!, and (speaking of the 1st editions) if you plan to buy it get the version mentioned above. My understanding is that they wrote a text specifically on "Stellar Astrophysics" but it costs about the same and does not have the chapters on the solar system, galaxies, and cosmology. These are all part of astronomy/astrophysics degree programs.
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I have found Unsöld and Baschek's The New Cosmos (5th ed corrected, Springer Verlag, about $80) to be a very useful book. It is broad in scope and well balanced. Not overly mathematical, but rigorous when needed for good reason. It offers a great overview of astronomy and astrophysics. Check out the link for the table of contents and sample pages.
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stevecoe
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I taught from Kaufmann and found it plenty detailed enough for a Astro 101 course. That was 3 years ago. I will ask my observing buddy what he is teaching from and provide that here when I get an answer.
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Chris Z
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Hi Steve. What class did you teach?
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Chris;
It was an astronomy course that was aimed at meeting a science requirement for business and computer science students. It was fun and they seemed to enjoy it.
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Gregory
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Many thanks for all of the responses.
BTW, has anyone purchased or looked through "Observational Astrophysics" by Robert C. Smith?
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I would recommend anything by Jay Pasachoff. I can't think of a specific astronomy title off the top of my head, but since university astronomy has a lot of physics in it, I would take a peek into Physics with Modern Physics for Scientists and Engineers (Wolfson & Pasachoff).
Get it from the library if you aren't sure. It's very readable, but also very expensive. Nevertheless it's one of the few physics texts I own that I think was worth every penny I spent on it.
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I just ordered the Universe book that Don recomended. Can't wait to get it!
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I recently read an old (1995) edition of what I believe is now called _Voyages Through the Universe_ by Fraknoi, Morrison and Wolff. The edition I have is an update of an older book by George Abell and, even though a bit long in the tooth, it is EXCELLENT. I would hope the new (renamed) editions continue the things I liked about it: even though it is ostensibly an undergrad text it does not shy away from necessary maths and concepts. Good stuff.
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Does anyone have any experience with Astronomy Today (6th Edition) by Eric Chaisson?
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LivingNDixie
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I have seen a previous version. It was ok, but the one I saw had a couple of typos in it.
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I have seen a previous version. It was ok, but the one I saw had a couple of typos in it.
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LivingNDixie
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Ok means ok. Not great, just ok...
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