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Lew Chilton
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AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!!
      #1691920 - 06/30/07 02:35 PM Attachment (604 downloads)

Last night I attended my first full-moon star party on the front driveway of John Pons' home in North Hollywood, California. John provided the telescopes, his wife the refreshments. The guest list was impressive: Caveman and wife Debbie, Dan Mounsey of Woodland Hills Camera, my wife Carla and myself, a number of refractor friends of John and Dan, and some of his neighbors.

The real celebrities of the evening were Pons' 6-inch Goto prototype refractor, built in 1954, and his larger custom-made refractor, based on Zeiss designs, that was made to hold a number of different objective lenses (more on this later).

But first, the little star of the show was Caveman's circa 1953 Nippon Kogaku 50mm refractor on its original mount. Its performance amazed everybody! It provided color-free, ultra-sharp views of Venus. It also provided comparatively better views of Jupiter than its larger brethren because it was less sensitive to seeing conditions. The "Little Scope that Could" is a definite keeper - I wish it were mine.

Here's a picture of the "Little Scope that Could" and its owner, Caveman (aka Clint Whitman), looking thru one of the two original tack-sharp eyepieces.

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).

Edited by Lew Chilton (06/30/07 10:39 PM)


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Vesper818
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691931 - 06/30/07 02:41 PM

Isn't that something!

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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Vesper818]
      #1691939 - 06/30/07 02:44 PM

Sweet little scope.

Bigger is not always better.

It reminds me of my little Tasco white tube 60mm. Although, that's like comparing a AMC Pacer to a Shelby Cobra.

Regards and clear skies,

MikeG

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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691951 - 06/30/07 02:55 PM Attachment (466 downloads)

Here's the business-end of the amazing 6-inch Goto refractor owned by John Pons. Originally built in 1954, acquired by Joe Choate of Los Angeles, CA in 1956, it was destined for the landfill when John acquired it some years ago. It was a basket case until John's magic brought it back to its former glory. Today, it appears exactly as it looked in mid-1950s Sky & Telescope advertisements.

I'll let you in on a little secret. The objective lens presently installed in the Goto is actually a prototype 6-1/4 inch clear aperture Unitron lens. The Goto objective is carefully wrapped and stored elsewhere, but can be reinstalled at any time. Both objectives are superb examples of the opticians art.

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691957 - 06/30/07 03:01 PM

English language and CN graemlins cannot express my envy.





Awesome scope. And a great story about how it was saved from the trash heap!

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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691962 - 06/30/07 03:04 PM Attachment (442 downloads)

Here's the Goto with its proud owner, John Pons. Of the many telescopes John owns or has owned, I get the impression that this one is his favorite.

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691967 - 06/30/07 03:07 PM

The pier, mount, and drives are as amazing as the scope.

What workmanship and quality.

It exudes an air of days gone by when real craftsmen took pride in their work.

Amazing.

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Michael Gilmer - Member of the Meteoritical Society & Collector of Falling Stars.



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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691987 - 06/30/07 03:20 PM Attachment (330 downloads)

Here's the nameplate on the east side of the Goto mount.

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691990 - 06/30/07 03:21 PM Attachment (286 downloads)

Here's the nameplate on the west side of the Goto mount...

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1691995 - 06/30/07 03:26 PM Attachment (351 downloads)

Here's the Goto objective - actually a Unitron 160mm (6.3 -inch clear aperture), 2600mm f.l. objective lens.

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Lew Chilton
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1692010 - 06/30/07 03:34 PM Attachment (335 downloads)

The 6-inch Goto clock drive is powered by a falling weight, just like a grandfather clock. The falling weight is regulated by a ball governor, seen here in the enclosed glass case. It can truly be said that this scope has balls!

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I don't get no respect, but my scopes do!
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1961 Swift 60mm model 839 (2); TV-102/GM-8; 1959 8" f/6 Treckerscope; 1959 8" f/7.4 Murray Scope; 1978 4" Edmund Astroscan; c. 1992 4-inch Celestron-Vixen SP-C102; c. 1950 20X60 Saturn spotting scope; 1963 7X50 Nippon Kogaku binoculars; Unitron #114 alt-az mount (Swifty-tron); Takahashi TOA-130S/EM-200USD3.
Sold: my Fecker Celestar-4 after 40 yrs. of ownership (1970-2010).


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1692027 - 06/30/07 03:40 PM



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mac patten
astronomy club of tulsa

Nexstar 8
orion epic 9.5,12.3,22
17mm televue plossl
30mm GSO superview
a bunch of other cheap but useful eyepieces
2 inch antares SCT diagonal
oh yeah,and a shoestring budget



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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1692029 - 06/30/07 03:41 PM

Simply amazing ...

-JWW:


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1692030 - 06/30/07 03:42 PM

Jon looks to be in as good a shape as his instruments. He's got to be pushing 70 if I'm not mistaken.

BTW Is it Jon or John? I've seen both spellings an equal number of times.

Keith

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Vesper818
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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1692056 - 06/30/07 03:54 PM

pushing 70?
Those scopes must weigh more than that!! That guy needs an observatory!


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1692061 - 06/30/07 03:58 PM

Jon or John is as hyper as a person can be at 12 years old much less less at nearly 70 he amazed me. Some people say I a litter hyper he zooms past me like i am standing still

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Clint & Debbie Whitman (aveman JOIN US AT CSPAMP V Classic Telescopes, 9" AP ThePEARL, 1946 4" Tinsley Saturn Telescope. 1970 4" Unitron 155c,1954 100mm Unitron Brass 152. 1950s Nippon Kogaku refractors 5 CM, 6.5 CM. 1965 10" F8 Cave Astrola, G-11 ST2000xm




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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #1692132 - 06/30/07 04:32 PM

must be all the health food. <grin>

-JWW:


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: JWW]
      #1692359 - 06/30/07 06:47 PM

I bet he gets that build by lugging that 'scope around! I on the other have a body sculpted by Tasco 9VR!

Edited by GeneDiG (06/30/07 06:49 PM)


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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #1692370 - 06/30/07 06:52 PM

Quote:

The 6-inch Goto clock drive is powered by a falling weight, just like a grandfather clock. The falling weight is regulated by a ball governor, seen here in the enclosed glass case. It can truly be said that this scope has balls!


OOOoooo....thats terrible!

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Re: AMAZING FULL MOON STAR PARTY!! new [Re: ngc2289]
      #1692490 - 06/30/07 08:00 PM

Aa advertisement from March 1957 Sky and Telescope, reads: This complete GOTO 6" EQUATORIAL was recently exported to the TITAN OBSERVATORY in Los Angeles.

Same one?

Keith (I'd post a pic, but I'm having trouble figuriong out how to convert TIFFs to JPEGs)

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