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trainsktg
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Edmund 8" f8 Reflector
      #1735432 - 07/23/07 11:47 PM Attachment (178 downloads)

Hello everyone.

Well, I'm starting a new thread on this telescope originally purchased by Father Matthias(d.) for the Mt. Angel Abbey near Portland, Oregon, sometime in the 1950s.

Apparently, these are relatively rare. There is precious little about them on the web, mostly just personal websites or blogs, and surprisingly no Yahoo Group that I could find. Dad says that only about two dozen of these went out each year in the late 60s when he worked there. There is some paperwork/manuals(?) that came with this telescope that the Abbey will be mailing me, and I'll post any pertinent information I can find once I receive it. It will be interesting to see if the sales receipt will show up as well .

Well, its going to get a cosmetic restoration only, mostly just paint chips on the tube, cleaning and relubing the mount gearing and a bath for the mirror. It is in excellent shape overall.

Here are some pictures...

First is a comparison shot with an RV-6. That mount weighs in at about 75#, and not only held this scope, but also served to carry the Abbey's largest telescope, a 13" almost f6 reflector. The telescope also has as an accessory a bracket to hold a camera to the eyepiece, and a brass ATMed 2" focuser 90 degrees adjecent to the stock 1.25" focuser. That unit and the ATMed setting circle will both be removed.

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735450 - 07/23/07 11:56 PM Attachment (110 downloads)

Here is a shot of a massive ATMed pier, made from 2" and 6" iron pipe and 1/4" plate. It was designed and built to hold several scopes. Since I am just going to be using it for the 8", I will be modifying it to make it a little more user friendly. I'll be adding wheels, levelers and removing the 6" 45 degree elbow and flange and replacing them with a 6" to 4" reducing bushing and 4" iron pipe for the Edmund mount to sit on. At least...that's the plan. I doubt there are many factory Edmund piers up for grabs. Besides I've already got a Spacek pier will handle the Edmund, so unless a really good deal comes along, I ain't gonna worry 'bout it.

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735460 - 07/24/07 12:02 AM

Beautiful scopes, and they are going to the perfect home, to someone who will love them, restore them and use them..
Hope the good little monkey has a good back!
C

Edited by Siderea (07/24/07 12:03 AM)


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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735464 - 07/24/07 12:03 AM Attachment (98 downloads)

Finally, a back shot of the mirror. This mirror is in outstanding condition. The glass blank is exceptionally clear and that silvery sheen is indeed the back of the coating. Notice the three stickers? All original, including the manufacturer's label: UPCO Optics. That would be Universal Precision of Shamokin Dam, PA. There is also fine cast-into-the-glass lettering on the back of the blank that says 'Pyrex' and 'Made in USA'.

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735468 - 07/24/07 12:05 AM

Wow That mount is massive. How is the condition? Does Everything work? Can it all be restored?

$152 or so, you got a great deal. You should have tons of fun restoring that puppy.

Very nice!

Steve

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Vesper818]
      #1735474 - 07/24/07 12:08 AM

See told ya you would get it!
Bill


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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Steve_M_M]
      #1735480 - 07/24/07 12:12 AM

Quote:

Hope the good little monkey has a good back!




He does...for now


Quote:

That mount is massive. How is the condition? Does Everything work? Can it all be restored?




The only thing that may not work is the drive motor, but then again it may. I expect it will. Other than some very minor surface rusting near bolt heads, plus some flaked paint here and there, this guy is in prime condition. For now, all I really see it requiring is a clean and relube job.

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735488 - 07/24/07 12:16 AM Attachment (99 downloads)

Notice the similarities to the Spacek mount? Edmund engineers actually went to an astronomy show with rulers, calipers, and note pads, inspected Spacek's mount and voila...guess what came out onto the market a short while later?

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735490 - 07/24/07 12:17 AM

Isn't that the nicest part, so get such a wonderful scope in great condition?

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Vesper818]
      #1735594 - 07/24/07 01:46 AM Attachment (88 downloads)

Indeed.

Here's another sweet part. This is the Edmund finder off of the scope. It has a 50mm aperture with (I think) a 9x magnification, but I'll have to confirm that with Pop. Now, the best part is the eBay ad stated a FOV of 6 degrees, which was the spec for the standard finder, not the Deluxe Finder Telescope. Confirmed tonight: this little guy has a monsterous 12 degree FOV!

It also has crosshairs, a smooth-as-silk helical focuser and a little brass knob near the middle that also appears to allow for additional focus by sliding it back and forth...another question for Opa.

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1735862 - 07/24/07 08:48 AM

That's one heck of a find.

And it couldn't be in better hands.



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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Glassthrower]
      #1736056 - 07/24/07 10:46 AM

Keith Looks like you might have found a Planet killer!!! At 8" the mirror might cut thru thos Oregonia clouds that are always floating around!!! Awsome find and a great price! Classic F8 If the mirror is perfect it will perform like a 8" refractor!!! I guess you dont need that cave now!

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #1737094 - 07/24/07 08:08 PM

Quote:

I guess you dont need that cave now!




'Need' and 'won't fit in my garage anymore' are two completely separate issues

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1737166 - 07/24/07 08:44 PM Attachment (73 downloads)

OK, some updates...

About the finder. Its a 6x50 with a 12 degree field. It came in two variants with different EPs...a 68 degree Erfle or a 70 degree symmetrical. The early versions were uncoated, coatings came later. I don't think this one is coated (for one, I haven't cleaned it yet ). I'll disassemble it when I clean it and see what EP it has. One thing of note is the obvious care this scope received. The rubber eyeguard is as-new. Very soft and pliable.

About the scope overall. The model came out sometime in late 1962, but not much after. It does not appear in an early 1962 catalog that Pop has. He's sending me a 1972 catalog so I can see the original pier, pricing and specs. New in '72 was about $440 and came with three EPs and a barlow. EPs probably like...this!



Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1737464 - 07/24/07 11:09 PM

A friend of mine had one of these (an Edmund 8" f/8 on an equatorial mount). The optics were among the best I've ever seen in a Newtonian. The Edmund 12.5" Newtonians were also excellent.

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1737981 - 07/25/07 10:04 AM

Nice one, Keith!

I recall seeing the 8" f/8 listed in old Edmund catalogs.
It was their ultimate Newtonian for quite a while!
Built like a battleship.

You should have some great views thru yours!!

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Clive Gibbons]
      #1744809 - 07/28/07 09:47 PM Attachment (87 downloads)

The (baby) giant awakens from two decades of slumber...

Keith

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: trainsktg]
      #1744925 - 07/28/07 10:49 PM

He must have....'cause he ain't in the chair no more!! Mike

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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: mikey cee]
      #1744969 - 07/28/07 11:14 PM


Another beauty Keith! Those Edmund say "serious astronomy" all over them
Where do you keep them all? It's like they're collapsable.. Do you have an observatory?




Another advantage to refractors.... You can sit down while observing!


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Re: Edmund 8" f8 Reflector new [Re: Vesper818]
      #1745031 - 07/28/07 11:34 PM

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Where do you keep them all?




I am good at space management

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