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rboe



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All Arizona Messier Marathon; 4-5-08
      #1924927 - 10/20/07 09:07 PM

Thanks for the update on the dates Pete.

Someone remind me to bring the darn Gnome this time, OK?

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Edited by rboe (11/08/07 08:47 PM)


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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1925009 - 10/20/07 10:14 PM

HEY, RON!

Wouldja bring the darn Gnome this time?

















Oh, you probably meant remind to you next Spring.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: square_peg]
      #1925236 - 10/21/07 12:39 AM

Why don't come on down and help me bring it? Poke:

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1925531 - 10/21/07 08:04 AM

That's not a bad idea.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: square_peg]
      #1927515 - 10/22/07 12:16 AM

Not a bad idea at all... we'd love to have you, and you'd love to bag all 110 down here.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: Peter Argenziano]
      #1927522 - 10/22/07 12:21 AM

All with his little W.O. 66.

Guess I better bring the dob so it'll get used while I sleep.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1930204 - 10/23/07 01:07 AM

Tom, I quit after 49 'cause it was too much fun meeting these guys. You'll have to be short and curt with them to find 110...

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: half meter]
      #1930705 - 10/23/07 09:51 AM

He's kinda short already and with so many Tom's around calling him Curt should be a no brainer.

Gary, you thinking of showing up? Maybe we should get T to show his face too.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1931784 - 10/23/07 06:35 PM

I have been sort of obsessed with the topic of the window for viewing all 110 objects over the years, to the point of creating this chart. Read your latitude on the y-axis, and the window for observing all 110 objects on a single night can be inferred. The chart was created using data from Hartmut Frommert's summary and desktop planetarium software.

A perfect score at this year's All-Arizona Messier Marathon will be either 109 or 108, depending on if M77 is faintly visible. I can tell you with confidence that M74 will not be.

This year, if you want to get all 110 in Arizona, you have to go out the previous weekend, when there will be a waning crescent moon near the handle of the Teapot in Sagittarius.

Tom

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: Tom Polakis]
      #1933277 - 10/24/07 10:30 AM

Hmmm, a WO66? Maybe I could do a Motorcycle Messier Marathon with one of those

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: Tom Polakis]
      #1935505 - 10/25/07 04:56 AM

Quote:

....Read your latitude on the y-axis, and the window for observing all 110 objects on a single night can be inferred.






Don't look so good up here at 47 degrees.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: square_peg]
      #1970487 - 11/08/07 11:12 AM

Bump.....

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1970510 - 11/08/07 11:21 AM



Any useful info to add for bumping this thread, Mr. Administrator?



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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1970511 - 11/08/07 11:22 AM

Pizzas ready for pickup. Should be nicely aged by Aptil.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: Skylook123]
      #1970633 - 11/08/07 12:21 PM

Give me a minute, I'll think of something. I was doing good just trying to find it again.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1970638 - 11/08/07 12:25 PM

We have always come in from the North but the access road continues off to the East and according to an older Arizona State map there appears to be a road that comes out of Marana that should hit the site too.

For some reason I thought some folks came in from that direction. Has that route been tried?

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 new [Re: rboe]
      #1970822 - 11/08/07 01:52 PM

Yeah, I've tried some of the old back routes when we used the site about 5 miles back up the road (about where the pavement ends). Never could find a countinuous route through; one time I actually bent a front rim on the "road".

Annoying, since the site's about 20 miles from my back yard, and it takes 70 miles of road driving to get there. But that 20 miles would take about as long as driving the paved 70 miles, even if I could find a true connection all the way. Plus I'd probably have to shovel a couple of inches of dust out of the pickup bed, and hope the primary mirror was still on the cell.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 [Re: Skylook123]
      #1971084 - 11/08/07 03:42 PM

Time to google map it. Maybe the Russian spy satellites have a route mapped out.

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 [Re: rboe]
      #1971136 - 11/08/07 04:04 PM

As long as they bring the pizza...

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Re: All Arizona Messier Marthon; 4-5-08 [Re: Skylook123]
      #1971239 - 11/08/07 04:55 PM

What, you don't like borscht?

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