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mikiek
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First Light with my new mount
      #2070123 - 12/23/07 05:49 PM

The Manfrotto 3246 tripod and 501 mount got here a few days ago and I was finally able to try them out. WOW! What a difference! I gotta say this setup was everything I hoped it would be.

The Moon was almost at zenith so I cranked up my binos (Pentax 10x50) and tilted them straight up. I cranked them down a bit - right to my eyes - just like the picture on the the website. I was even able to steady myself with the tripod with no vibration in the view. I just couldn't take my eyes off the Moon - musta just stared for about 5 minutes.

I know some folks say they can use their binos without a mount, but I've had fairly bad results trying to do that even with just the 10x50s. I'm lucky to hold them steady for 15-20 seconds. This mount makes it a whole new world.

Of course I am now thinking about something bigger than the 10x50s - that figures

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edwincjones
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: mikiek]
      #2070297 - 12/23/07 07:48 PM

I cannot see much either with handheld binoculars.

That is an impressive mount for 50mm binoculars-they need something larger-like 80-100mms.

edj

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mikiek
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: edwincjones]
      #2070339 - 12/23/07 08:17 PM

No doubt it's overkill for 10x50s. But I wanted something I could lean on or brace myself and not mess up my view. This is definately it.

I suspect it would hold up anything I care to put on it.

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hallelujah
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: mikiek]
      #2070694 - 12/23/07 11:13 PM

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I suspect it would hold up anything I care to put on it.




Mikiek,

The Manfrotto 501 head is limited to 13.2 lbs. maximum load capacity, so just keep that in mind. Everything has its limits.

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DblVision
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: hallelujah]
      #2071116 - 12/24/07 06:48 AM

...as described in EdZ's CN Report "Binocular Mounts, Tripods and Mounting Accessories" which advises that, due to bins being an offcenter, torque-inducing load, the practical load limit for a head is approximately 50% of the stated capacity.

The addition of a counterweight appears to allow a greater load to be carried. I've been running a 128RC (3130) head now for a couple of months with a load that tallies to 5% over the stated capacity. Operation is quite fine.

As to mounting small bins in the first place, count me in the list of folks who routinely mount 7-10x bins!

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edwincjones
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: DblVision]
      #2071130 - 12/24/07 07:10 AM

I usually mount my 25x150s on a UA Sirius P-Mount on a G11 tripod. When I use my 13# miyauchis on the mount, it is very very solid. Overmounting can be nice.

edj

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Deekay
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: edwincjones]
      #2071206 - 12/24/07 08:34 AM

As a newcomer to binocular astronomy I fully agree with you that mounting bins can really improve the observing experience. I only have a 10x50 at the moment, but at my regular observing site, found myself steadying them on top of a gatepost for steadier viewing. This resulted in some very light scratching to the body of the bins, so I invested in a tripod. I received it recently, and so far have only had one observing opportunity due cloudy weather, but it was great!! I am now eyeing up buying Fujinon 16X70 for the mount, and use the 10x50's for sweeping the sky.

Regards

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mikiek
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Re: First Light with my new mount new [Re: DblVision]
      #2140919 - 01/23/08 06:54 PM

Quote:

...as described in EdZ's CN Report "Binocular Mounts, Tripods and Mounting Accessories" which advises that, due to bins being an offcenter, torque-inducing load, the practical load limit for a head is approximately 50% of the stated capacity.

The addition of a counterweight appears to allow a greater load to be carried. I've been running a 128RC (3130) head now for a couple of months with a load that tallies to 5% over the stated capacity. Operation is quite fine.

As to mounting small bins in the first place, count me in the list of folks who routinely mount 7-10x bins!




So what happens if you mount more weight than the specfied limit? Is the view affected? Does it damage the mount?

I ask because I could be buying a small APO refractor and might possibly want to use the same tripod/mount for that.

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May there always be starlight on the path - R.Burnham
___________________________________________________________
Celestron CPC 1100
TV NP-101(riding the CPC)
SV-80S
Lunt LS80



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