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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Jerry Hyman]
      #2577048 - 08/12/08 04:52 PM

Don:

No, I have no idea how long the batteries will last. I've not run it with the batteries, yet. Obviously, it depends upon the load and how much you slew it around the sky. I will put that test onto my list of things to learn. Yes, the included power supplies will work with the batteries installed.

JD. I actually have not yet read the manual in detail. I'll make note of the omission. Thank you.

Sam:

I'm not into AP, yet. I may get there, some day. LOL I thought I had mentioned that the 4" f/15 Jeagers weighs 22 pounds without any EPs. Yes, a wedge is being developed for the Mini.

Jerry:

The HD accessories that are mentioned most likely refers to whatever the owner would care to use. That can be counterwieghts, cameras, or another scope.

The dovetail is Vixen

As soon as I get to test the Mini with a 9.25" I will let everyone know.

OK. Here come MORE T-Storms!! DARN!

CS

Seve

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2577507 - 08/12/08 08:04 PM

Yeah, this thunderstorm thing is getting ridiculous. Maybe we'll get another clear weekend though...just in time for the full moon I presume.

If I can get my CG-5 sold I'm absolutely going to get a Mini-Tower. Who am I kidding? I'm probably gonna get a Mini-Tower no matter what.

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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: hammerhead]
      #2578106 - 08/13/08 12:24 AM

Brian:

The I believe that the Mini would work very well with you C8 or the 110ED. Drop me a note (PM) if you need more info.

CS

Steve

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580276 - 08/14/08 05:16 AM

Quote:

By the way, just in case anyone is interested, I opened my Mini up today and looked around. There are four very nice tapered roller bearings inside of the Mini. Two per axle. (Duh?) The gears consist of very large aluminum worm wheels and brass worm gears. The worm gear bearing assemblies are braced by very solid brackets to prevent side to side play which was known to be problem with the early versions of the Cube. The lubrication appears to be synthetic. In other words, it's built like a tank!




Hi Steve,

Would you share some pix of the opened mount?
Thanks!

Max

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580315 - 08/14/08 06:08 AM

Any news about goto accuracy? I've been following this thread hoping to see that!

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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: scopedude]
      #2580611 - 08/14/08 10:11 AM Attachment (275 downloads)

Max:

Like this one?

When we were using it last Saturday night the GOTO accuracy was very good. I was using a 150mm f/12 MAK with a 32mm TV Plossl. The FOV was more narrow than that of my 4" f/15 refractor. Each object was within the FOV.

Does that help?

CS

Steve

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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580617 - 08/14/08 10:14 AM Attachment (319 downloads)

One more.

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Trapezium Telescopes & Services, LLC
10013 Calle de Palencia
Navarre, FL 32566
1.850.736.3559 (Cell)
Web: http://TrapeziumTelescopes.com
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Dylan Gladstone
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580653 - 08/14/08 10:36 AM

That looks VERY sturdy inside. But is that brass coming off on the wheel or just the color of the grease? (It looks like grease to me, but it's hard to tell from the photo.)

Reading in the manual, the slew rates seem to go really high and there's a "user definable" option. (I wonder if it's fast enough to track the space shuttle? )

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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580655 - 08/14/08 10:37 AM

I seem to remember that someone had suggested that the internal battery pack for the Mini was not discussed in the manual. It IS mentioned in item #10 on page 11 of the manual.

CS

Steve

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Trapezium Telescopes & Services, LLC
10013 Calle de Palencia
Navarre, FL 32566
1.850.736.3559 (Cell)
Web: http://TrapeziumTelescopes.com
Email: Stephen.Forbes@TrapeziumTelescopes.com
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2580693 - 08/14/08 10:55 AM

Hi Steve,

Those plastic gears would keep me well within the maximun load limit of the mount.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: SteveC]
      #2580990 - 08/14/08 01:09 PM

Hi all

I am surprised to see the same weak plastic part holding the worm in place (as on the original Cube). The only upgrade is the metal side support preventing side to side movement.

As SteveC mentions the plastic gears that transmit the motor power are still a weak link in the long run.

Seems to me that some good upgrades went into production while other parts were left alone to reduce costs.

Regards
Chris


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Max Lattanzi
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2581071 - 08/14/08 01:40 PM

Thank you Steve,

Exactly those ! And if you have more, do not hesitate to share them.
I am trying to figure out if this Mini Tower could be a better solution than the monofork Nextar SE...

Thank you so much!

Max

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #2581098 - 08/14/08 01:54 PM

Quote:

I am surprised to see the same weak plastic part holding the worm in place




Quote:

Those plastic gears would keep me well within the maximun load limit of the mount.




And me from buying one of these.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Wes James]
      #2581249 - 08/14/08 03:01 PM

Well, I've never opened up my CPC925 but I would bet that there are some plastic gears in there somewhere.

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Dylan Gladstone
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #2581360 - 08/14/08 03:38 PM

Quote:

I am trying to figure out if this Mini Tower could be a better solution than the monofork Nextar SE...



Same here.

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Dylan Gladstone
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Dylan Gladstone]
      #2581417 - 08/14/08 04:06 PM

I googled pics on the NexStar mounts. Winnie, from what I can see the gears in the CPC's are all metal. Same with the single-armed NexStar mounts I saw. (Unless what I believe to be a 90 degree turn in the end of the single armed NexStar mounts has plastic gears. I couldn't see the inside of the gear train.)

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2581994 - 08/14/08 08:50 PM

Quote:

I seem to remember that someone had suggested that the internal battery pack for the Mini was not discussed in the manual. It IS mentioned in item #10 on page 11 of the manual.

CS

Steve




Steve,

If so, your manual is different than the one on the iOptron website:

Web site manual

Item #10 on page 11 in the web site manual just says to plug in the power cable, no mention of a battery pak...

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower [Re: J_D_Metzger]
      #2583218 - 08/15/08 01:33 PM

What I wish is that someone...maybe Ioptron would make a heavy duty ALT AZ goto (like the mini tower) with the capability to be used in manual mode. That would be nice!
bc

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Telescopeman54
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower [Re: bcuddihee]
      #2583511 - 08/15/08 04:16 PM

You can use the Mini in a manual mode. You will not keep the alignment, though. All you need do is loosen the clamps, aim and then use the controller to center the object. If you practice enough you could even track using the hand controller. That is a skill that I most likely will never develop so I'll let the Mini do the tracking.

Steve

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Web: http://TrapeziumTelescopes.com
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower [Re: Telescopeman54]
      #2584900 - 08/16/08 11:40 AM

Telescopeman

I've been waiting for some follow-up on your first light report with the MiniTower. Your first report was notable for lacking your usual exhuberance and simply mentioned that the mount kept the target in the FOV of a low mag EP. I'm hoping this was just due to morning-after sleep deprivation .

Don't get me wrong, I WANT to like the MiniTower enough to shell out the $$ for it and sincerely HOPE it is the Darwinian evolutionary successor to the less than impressive Cube.

As I mentioned in my email to you, here's to "Wishing you a wildly successful new mount"

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