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AlienFirstClass
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CGE availability
      #2947794 - 02/24/09 08:48 PM

I am considering buying a Celestron CGE mount.

While looking at different vendors, I came across this.

Would someone care to comment on what is going on?

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=12577


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: AlienFirstClass]
      #2947814 - 02/24/09 09:02 PM

The CGE is still a current product that any Celestron dealer can get. Some will show up as special order as they were discontinued and taken off the Celestron price list. That however has changed.

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AlienFirstClass
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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Astronomics]
      #2947841 - 02/24/09 09:29 PM

Thank you for your response.

Then what is going on with the OPT FAQ page?


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: AlienFirstClass]
      #2947855 - 02/24/09 09:39 PM

I guess it hasn't been fixed since Celestron announced the change a few weeks ago.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: AlienFirstClass]
      #2947862 - 02/24/09 09:42 PM

Maybe you should send an email to OPT and ask them.



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AlienFirstClass
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Re: CGE availability new [Re: rick rian]
      #2947887 - 02/24/09 09:53 PM

Quote:

Maybe you should send an email to OPT and ask them.






Good idea.

But I am asking here...now....also.


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Alph
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Re: CGE availability new [Re: AlienFirstClass]
      #2948226 - 02/25/09 01:46 AM

Quote:

Would someone care to comment on what is going on?

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=12577




Disregard it. This vendor is notorious for providing wrong information on their website.


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AlienFirstClass
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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Alph]
      #2948247 - 02/25/09 02:20 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Would someone care to comment on what is going on?

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=12577




Disregard it. This vendor is notorious for providing wrong information on their website.




Okay...could you expand on that?

I am shopping for a number of items that they carry.

Any other wrong information on their web site that you are aware of?


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: AlienFirstClass]
      #2948261 - 02/25/09 02:36 AM

I have never seen any incorrect info on the OPT site and from what I have seen it appears this information was correct when they posted it, but it is not correct now. I guess the economy has celestron doing some rethinking.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Lane]
      #2948508 - 02/25/09 08:53 AM

I find the info on OPT to be reliable, but one error I noticed is the EON72 they have continuted to show for several months as being discontinued by Orion, yet the scope is still for sale and has had several sales. BTW it is a great scope, my friend measured his at 1/10 wave on the interferometer.

It makes sense that Celestron would rethink killing the CGE and keep it part of a family of options.

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Edited by dougspeterson (02/25/09 08:58 AM)


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: dougspeterson]
      #2950791 - 02/26/09 11:41 AM

Quote:

but one error I noticed is the EON72 they have continuted to show for several months as being discontinued by Orion, yet the scope is still for sale



There you go. CGE is also discontinued - right. Anything in red font has to be taken with a grain of salt. They very often run specials on their website way beyond expiration time.


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Alph]
      #2963230 - 03/04/09 01:02 PM

If the CGE would be discontinued, prices will drop soon

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: PhilCo126]
      #2963311 - 03/04/09 01:36 PM

Prices have been dropping. OPT has the CGE for 320$ off right now.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Kolenka]
      #2963409 - 03/04/09 02:21 PM

I guess this crushes hopes to get the cge user "hard spots" fixed. If they were thinking about discontinuing it in the first place, nothing was going to get fixed. It may be a long time now if it does.

Tom


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: phanf4]
      #2963859 - 03/04/09 06:17 PM

It is possible that they were not really planning to eliminate the CGE, they could have been planning to replace it with a redesigned CGE that looks more like the CGEM and CGE Pro. The economy could have changed those plans. I would find it very hard to believe they would have left a gap like that in their lineup. Certainly would have made Losmandy happy though, they would have sold a lot more G11's.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Lane]
      #2965013 - 03/05/09 09:36 AM

It's like DeJaVu all over again.

I am on a holding pattern on a mount with all this. As much as I really enjoyed my CGE and in reality was enough for what I wanted to do... I will probably move up and possibly out of the Celestron lineup unless the CGE-Pro is exceptionally stellar from the git-go.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: MichaelW]
      #2966211 - 03/05/09 07:05 PM

I agree with Lane. It seems strange that they would leave such a gap. I was planning to defork my celestron and get a middle of the road GEM with 50 to 60 lb capacity. I didn't want to spend $5K to $7K. That left the CGE and G11. The G11 needs some serious updating. So, CGE. Now that's gone? Argh! My decision -- keep using my fork and AO-8.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: idahoman]
      #2967324 - 03/06/09 10:47 AM

I've done the G-11/CGE ping pong several times. I have a GM-8 as well. Overall I think the G-11 has several BIG (for me) advantages. Mechanical setting circles, hollow polar shaft, completely and easily user serviceable, and replacement parts availability. It's big downsides (to me) are limited availability of the mount itself and higher cost.

The most attractive aspect of the CGE (to me) is widespread availability, currently falling prices and simple, mature Nexstar firmware. I am tempted with the latest round of discounts, but no matter Celestron's waffling, I would say that the writing is on the wall for this mount.

The CGEM and CGE Pro are cast not CNC machined (likely in Asia). I am guessing that the CGE costs a lot to make by comparison. Maybe they'll cook up an intermediate design (capacity wise) that they can cast in Asia. In any case, I don't expect to see the CGE around for more than another year in its present form.

If they drop the CGE to $2250 and throw in the optional polar scope, I'll buy one.

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Re: CGE availability new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #2967835 - 03/06/09 02:33 PM

Quote:

The most attractive aspect of the CGE (to me) is widespread availability, currently falling prices and simple, mature Nexstar firmware.




The Gemini is much more advanced than the Nexstar. The CGE's higher capacity specs are dubious too. Some folks are using the M14 on the G11 which is much heavier than the C14. In retrospect I wish I bought the G11 or even the HGM Titan. The end to the CGE is a little or no loss to this hobby. CGE R.I.P. Long live G11!


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Re: CGE availability new [Re: Alph]
      #2967871 - 03/06/09 02:47 PM

Hi Alph,

No offense, but I have to express the opposite opinion. I love my CGE! I had a Losmandy G11 at the time I bought the CGE. Had 'em and used 'em both for about six months and decided one of them had to go. I sold the G11, and for a lot less than I figured it was worth. Still have, and love, the CGE. Problems? One or two, like everybody else: cables and micro-switches - both easily corrected. I'd buy another one in a heart beat (if I needed one, that is).

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