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Ian Robinson
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Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new
      #3450642 - 11/16/09 05:24 AM

Already starting to go up and be set up in my street and neighbourhood .... great .... more suburban light pollution ,and more strangers prowling about at night ("to look at the pretty decorations").

Bah !! humbug !!!


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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Ian Robinson]
      #3450670 - 11/16/09 06:20 AM

I had a neighbor who decorated his (quite visible from the street) roof every year about this time with bright christmas lights spelling:

"BAH HUMBUG"

Might as well get into the spirit, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. A little Ebeneezer Scrooge quote in lights is right in the spirit of the holiday. My former neighbor was actually a nice, friendly fellow with a nice sense of humor.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Ian Robinson]
      #3450779 - 11/16/09 08:34 AM

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Already starting to go up and be set up in my street and neighbourhood .... great .... more suburban light pollution ,and more strangers prowling about at night ("to look at the pretty decorations").

Bah !! humbug !!!




Just hope that they don't have one of those "musical" light displays. My neighbor across the street from me has one that sings Christmas carols all night long. So in addition to spending hours outside on a cold December night, I have to listen to that! On the "bright" side, my fence blocks the lights pretty well.

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Joe Lalumia
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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: kcgolden]
      #3451010 - 11/16/09 10:55 AM

Well-------- it's only for a few weeks.

Get rid of the old cobra head streetlights and "barn" lights and the Christmas lights will be OK!



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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Joe Lalumia]
      #3451074 - 11/16/09 11:23 AM

I agree with Joe; honoring the Season with decorative lighting & displays, is only for a short while, & is enjoyed by many.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3451126 - 11/16/09 11:54 AM

Not like there's any good weather out anyway

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Ian Robinson
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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Hrundi]
      #3451186 - 11/16/09 12:18 PM

My wife's favourite aunti died from bactorial pheumonia + kidney failure 2 days before Xams (in 2007), the woman virtually raised my wife and she regarded her as her adopted daughter (she had no children of her own) , and her birthday was Xmas day too.
So last couple Xmases for use have been far from jolly,.... was cancelled in our house in 2007 , and my wife never even felt like celebrating Xmas or decorating last year.

We never do outsude decorations anyway (it'd be up to me and am not a Xmasy person.

New neighbours have a 14 yo daughter and a 10 yo son, so I am guessing they'll decorate their place outside as well as inside. They moved in just after Xmas last year.

Way things are going with my mum., we may head to Forster to spend Xmas and NY with her this year.

So unlikely to decorate the outside of our house this year.

Maybe if we had kids who were young enough , or grandkids.

Edited by Ian Robinson (11/16/09 02:37 PM)


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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... [Re: Ian Robinson]
      #3451315 - 11/16/09 01:13 PM

Ian, sorry to hear about you and your wife's loss.

It doesn't bother me. Adds to the sky glow but (here comes the vegetables thrown my way) astronomy is only one aspect of my life, an important one, but only one. It's the one time a year where I enjoy the light and I find that its a good time to share a view of a star on the driveway, outreach to the neighbors early in the evening before its too cold. I have a couple of families that ask about that because they tie looking at a star (or a planet) with something related to the holidays, hope. Also can provide you if you hand out a flyer in the neighborhood on what time and day you do it to explain how after the holidays people can use different lighting or turn off some to help out. Never know, you may gain a convert or a neighbor who understands why your out at 1:00a.m. looking through a long tube. I'll still keep observing, more lights or not!

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: JayinUT]
      #3451325 - 11/16/09 01:18 PM

I usually just spruce up the snow mountains to hide the yellow and brown spots.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: star drop]
      #3451409 - 11/16/09 01:54 PM

Ted, I thought you got enough snow to hide any spots on the mountains, as well as houses, cars, etc.!



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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3451419 - 11/16/09 01:56 PM

We're outnumbered so just sit back and watch the blinking lights!

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Ian Robinson
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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Hrundi]
      #3451518 - 11/16/09 02:42 PM

Quote:

Not like there's any good weather out anyway




Way our spring has gone here (hot !), it'll be a scorcher and is likely to be heatwave conditions here at Xmas / New Year.
Hope the old bearded fat guy has good a/conditioning in that dlay .... he's gonna need it.


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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3451520 - 11/16/09 02:44 PM

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Ted, I thought you got enough snow to hide any spots on the mountains, as well as houses, cars, etc.!





Yes I do. However the cats do not like to climb over the snow mountains or hop through the deep snow so frequent cleanup in the walking areas is a necessity.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: star drop]
      #3451616 - 11/16/09 03:24 PM

Well, they do rule; as my dog also does.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Joe Lalumia]
      #3451670 - 11/16/09 03:48 PM

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Well-------- it's only for a few weeks.




If only that were true...there are always a few houses on my block that have their lights up and lit into the spring.

That being said, I generally like the lights but only for a few weeks.

Now, if only the neighbor across the cul de sac would stop shining the flood light at my house 24/7.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Joe Lalumia]
      #3458350 - 11/20/09 08:01 AM

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Get rid of the old cobra head streetlights and "barn" lights and the Christmas lights will be OK!




Can't argue with that - in most cases. OTOH, there seem to be some light makers that are extending the waste-lumen wars into the Christmas lights. I put up our swag lights on the roof peak, plugged them in, and watched the front wall of the house across the street glow. All 600+ other lights that we have out don't dump as much light as that ~200. (Though the others are all colored and/or pattern-sequenced, both of which reduce total output.)

Yes, I put too much effort into this stuff...I've still got to put the red ones out to line the front walk.


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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: KD5NRH]
      #3458362 - 11/20/09 08:11 AM

My favorite outdoor Christmas decoration is a simple brown paper bag with a little sand in the bottom and a small votive candle. They are lit only on Christmas Eve. Where I grew up whole neighborhoods would decorate only with these. The effect can only be described as magical.

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: knuklhdastnmr]
      #3458384 - 11/20/09 08:31 AM

The neighborhood where I grew up did that as well, at least after they formed a homeowner's association that could organize it. Luminaria

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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: knuklhdastnmr]
      #3458396 - 11/20/09 08:40 AM

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My favorite outdoor Christmas decoration is a simple brown paper bag with a little sand in the bottom and a small votive candle. They are lit only on Christmas Eve. Where I grew up whole neighborhoods would decorate only with these. The effect can only be described as magical.




Until four years ago, we lived in a neighborhood where everyone in the entire neighborhood pitched in and all the streets for several blocks around were lined with an array of these votive candle-in-white paper bags at three to four foot intervals, lit just after dark on Chrismas Eve (the year every now and then when Christmas Eve was prohibitively rainy, we'd postpone lighting the candles until New Year's Eve). Each household in the neighborhood would chip in $5 toward the cost, and whole platoon of adults and neighborhood kids would gather at the neighborhood swim club Chrismas Eve morning and fill several thousand of these paper bags with sand and a candle, and then ride around on the back of pickup trucks setting them out. The effect Christmas Eve night was subdued, but very sublimely beautiful illumination of the whole neighborhood that lasted up to three hours before a significant portion of the candles started burning out.

THE ONE PROBLEM was that some years, there were still pockets of fall leaves lying by the street curbing here and there, and some people's mulched plant beds extended all the way down to the curb. One year when weather had been dry for an extended period prior to Christmas I remember one of the votive candles sparked a leaf-bed fire, which jumped into the adjacent yard's plant bed mulchings (a pinestraw/ leaf mix). Although the people at the house affected weren't home, fortuitously one of the largest neighborhood Christmas parties was going on in the house next door to it (with me in attendance), and some of us spotted it in time to douse it with a garden hose that was still attached to a spigot at the house. It was a mostly brick house, so I'm not sure how much the actual house was at risk, but...it could've potentially spread by sparks and airborne embers into an extended leafy wooded area that ran behind quite a few houses, and the swim club itself.

For that reason, I'm kinda surprised the municipal fire department didn't raise objections to neighborhood curbside votive candle tradtions like we had. Or that no one in the neighborhood intervened with insistent (but understandable) spoilsport objections to the modest, but real risk inherent in the tradition.

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Edited by FirstSight (11/20/09 08:54 AM)


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Re: Xmas yard and house decorations ..... new [Re: Ian Robinson]
      #3458500 - 11/20/09 09:50 AM

No Christmas lights or lawn decorations at our house.

Just one of these in the front window.

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