southmike
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 11/22/04
Posts: 2844
Loc: Fayetteville, NC
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 order placed 1-17-05 we will see,
I suppose nobody guessed the demand of these BV's
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group scope pic
my refractors
LX200 10"-St120
LX200 8" f6.3-Orion 80ed
LX200 8" f10-Orion 90 Mak setup pic
Meade 102ED LXD650
Sky Watcher 100 ED Triplet prototype
Nexstar 5
etx125
etx70's
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Mark Schulz
super member
Reged: 09/06/04
Posts: 157
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I received a call from High Point today. It seems the binos came from Burgess with 17mm ep's instead of the 20mm ep's originally planned. They were asking whether I wanted to wait or would take the 17's. I told them the 17's were fine and they promised shipping today or tomorrow.
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Mark Schulz
13.1" Tscopes Kit Dob
TV 85
127mm Orion mak
Denk II and Denk Standard Binoviewers
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Anonymous
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Yep,
A binoviewer in the hand is worth more than a pair of EPs on order. 
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erik
telescope surgeon
Reged: 01/30/04
Posts: 24789
Loc: Hawaii
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I received a call from High Point today. It seems the binos came from Burgess with 17mm ep's instead of the 20mm ep's originally planned. They were asking whether I wanted to wait or would take the 17's. I told them the 17's were fine and they promised shipping today or tomorrow.
oh, really? that's too bad. i was looking forward to the max fov with those binoviewers. geez, burgess doesn't have it together, do they!
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-Erik Wilcox
Starstuff
Homebuilt 16" Truss Dob in Ohia Forest Observatory
(12' X 12' rolloff under Mag 7 skies)
8" Antares f/5 Newt
SV 80mm ED Nighthawk NG on M1 ALT/AZ
Nikon Prostaff 65mm spotter on Trekpod
Konusvue 20x80 binos
Homebuilt 80mm f/5 refractor
Mirador 60mm f/12 1960's refractor
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southmike
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 11/22/04
Posts: 2844
Loc: Fayetteville, NC
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i'll take what i can get 
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group scope pic
my refractors
LX200 10"-St120
LX200 8" f6.3-Orion 80ed
LX200 8" f10-Orion 90 Mak setup pic
Meade 102ED LXD650
Sky Watcher 100 ED Triplet prototype
Nexstar 5
etx125
etx70's
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paul hart
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 06/01/04
Posts: 1091
Loc: Lawn Guyland, New Yawk, Earth
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Me too, I was going to get the 17mm's eventually.
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Paul
Long Island, New York
Orion Starmax 127 Mak
TScope 14" f/4.7 dob w/ F80 finder
10" f/4.8 dob
Orion 100mm f/6 achromat
Orion 10x50 Ultraview Binoculars
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erik
telescope surgeon
Reged: 01/30/04
Posts: 24789
Loc: Hawaii
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i won't. i'm thinking about cancelling my order now. what if there's a different reason that they're shipping them with the 17mm ep's instead of the 20mm? maybe the 20mm caused vignetting and they don't want to admit it. after learning a bit more about burgess, i'm a little leary...
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-Erik Wilcox
Starstuff
Homebuilt 16" Truss Dob in Ohia Forest Observatory
(12' X 12' rolloff under Mag 7 skies)
8" Antares f/5 Newt
SV 80mm ED Nighthawk NG on M1 ALT/AZ
Nikon Prostaff 65mm spotter on Trekpod
Konusvue 20x80 binos
Homebuilt 80mm f/5 refractor
Mirador 60mm f/12 1960's refractor
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rob cos.
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 03/11/04
Posts: 752
Loc: New England
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You could always call Burgess directly and just ask? I would do that before cancelling....it's possible they didn't have enough 20's on hand.
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Rob
15" Obsession(soon with Argo/Servo)
Orion 180 Mak/Lxd 75
Towa 339 80mm f/13
Towa 312 80mm f/11
Unistar Light Deluxe
Eyepieces:
Explore Scientific 9/14/20mm 100's
Edmund RKE set
University 25mm MK70/32mm/16mm/12mm Konig
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erik
telescope surgeon
Reged: 01/30/04
Posts: 24789
Loc: Hawaii
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yeah, i'll do that. i ordered them from highpoint, so i'll e-mail them and see how long the wait is going to be if i insist on the 20mm ep's...
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-Erik Wilcox
Starstuff
Homebuilt 16" Truss Dob in Ohia Forest Observatory
(12' X 12' rolloff under Mag 7 skies)
8" Antares f/5 Newt
SV 80mm ED Nighthawk NG on M1 ALT/AZ
Nikon Prostaff 65mm spotter on Trekpod
Konusvue 20x80 binos
Homebuilt 80mm f/5 refractor
Mirador 60mm f/12 1960's refractor
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acc
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Reged: 02/06/05
Posts: 62
Loc: Monterey, CA
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yeah, i'll do that. i ordered them from highpoint, so i'll e-mail them and see how long the wait is going to be if i insist on the 20mm ep's...
Do let us know the reply here. I have a unit on order since Feb 
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12.5" Portaball
TV85
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Or Dubnov-Raz
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Reged: 01/21/05
Posts: 27
Loc: Israel
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yeah, i'll do that. i ordered them from highpoint, so i'll e-mail them and see how long the wait is going to be if i insist on the 20mm ep's...
Let me take a wild guess... "A week or two.." ?...
At least we can keep on posting messages here, just to pass the time till something arrives to someone... 
Or Dubnov-Raz
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LX200 7" Big-Mak
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Never be afraid to try something new - Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic.
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Anonymous
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Hi Guys,
I have found that I really like my 18mm Radians in the Burgess binoviewer unit. I think you will like the 17mm EPs just fine. If you do not have a binoviewer already, you will be amazed at the difference two eyed viewing will make.
There are always deals on this site and other sites that will let you add to your EP collection. The good news is that you will only want to get the upper half of this image. That is until you get your 2 " units.
Don Durbin
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Mark Schulz
super member
Reged: 09/06/04
Posts: 157
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Don:
I tried, but could not see a pair of 25mm plossls in that amazing display.
That's what I have waiting for my Burgess "C" unit. According to TV the field stop is 21.2mm on these, and that should be perfect for the 22mm CA Burgess unit.
If I'm not happy with those once I get a chance to test them, the 18mm Radians you mention are my next plan. Field stop on them is 18.3mm. I have a pair of 14mm Radians I use in my Denk unit and I love them. I modified them by removing the sliding piece and adding winged eye guards.
I'm looking forward to the Burgess unit for two reasons. First, the Denk's are just too heavy in my small refractor to balance the way I'd like on my alt/az head. Second, having to pull out the Denks, remove the reflector OCS and power switch and put on the refractor power switch is a pain and defeats the "grab and go" reason I have the refractor at all. Once the Burgess unit gets here I will put the Denk reflector power switch on it and it will stay in place on the refractor.
Mark Schulz
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Mark Schulz
13.1" Tscopes Kit Dob
TV 85
127mm Orion mak
Denk II and Denk Standard Binoviewers
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Mark Schulz
super member
Reged: 09/06/04
Posts: 157
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Here's a picture of a modified Radian, with a "normal" one in place for comparison.
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Mark Schulz
13.1" Tscopes Kit Dob
TV 85
127mm Orion mak
Denk II and Denk Standard Binoviewers
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Anonymous
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I got my Burgess back at the end of January. I wanted 17mm eyepieces, but at that time Highpoint had only 20mm! I had little choice, so I accepted them. Since then I have added a pair of 23mm Axioms from Astromart, two 25mm Ultrascopics (already had one) and added an $8 Celestron 15mm plossl to another I had already. All of these eyepieces work very well in the BB, no hint of vignetteing and even the kit type Celestron plossls have surpassed my expectations. Erik, the BB is the best bargain in astronomy, believe me.
CJ
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square_peg
Postmaster
Reged: 03/26/04
Posts: 36712
Loc: Maple Valley, WA
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Here's a picture of a modified Radian, with a "normal" one in place for comparison.
That's interesting. I didn't know you could do that. Where'd you get the finger grip portion of the modified one?
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Tom (Pegster)
DSH-8 (GSO Dob)
15x70 Oberwerks
ED80/SVP
WO 66P
Sears Discoverer EQ 60/900
8x42 Regals
History is Philosophy teaching by examples.
Thucydides
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Anonymous
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Mark,
Yes you are correct, I have no 25mm Plossls EPs. There is a pair of 24mm noname wides in there. I use them for public events. They have lots of glass and nice deep rubber eyeshields.
I did have a pair of Celestron 25mm SMAs at one point in time but I found I was not using them very much.
I do however have a pair of 24mm Ultras coming from Siebert Optics. They should be here Friday and I also just bought a pair of used 25mm Orthoscopics and they are on their way to me.
25mm Orthoscopics
I think both pairs will work well in my Burgess, Blacknights, and Denks.
Don
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Lost in Space
Vendor - Galactic Rocks
Reged: 11/14/04
Posts: 2031
Loc: North Carolina
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Quote:
I received a call from High Point today. It seems the binos came from Burgess with 17mm ep's instead of the 20mm ep's originally planned. They were asking whether I wanted to wait or would take the 17's. I told them the 17's were fine and they promised shipping today or tomorrow.
I spoke with Bill Burgess back in March and he said that the 20mm EPs were about all gone and future Binoviewers would ship with 17mm EPs. I don't know if he ever intends to go back to 20mm again though.
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Ed
Televue TV76
Coronado SM60/BF15
Meteorite Collection
IMCA #8911 - http://www.imca.cc
“A graduation ceremony is an event where the commencement speaker tells thousands of students dressed in identical caps and gowns that 'individuality' is the key to success." - Robert Orben
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erik
telescope surgeon
Reged: 01/30/04
Posts: 24789
Loc: Hawaii
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that's a real bummer! ...when someone gets one of the new units, i'd like to know whether the clear aperture is still close to 22mm, or if it's narrower. that would explain the sudden change to 17mm ep's...
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-Erik Wilcox
Starstuff
Homebuilt 16" Truss Dob in Ohia Forest Observatory
(12' X 12' rolloff under Mag 7 skies)
8" Antares f/5 Newt
SV 80mm ED Nighthawk NG on M1 ALT/AZ
Nikon Prostaff 65mm spotter on Trekpod
Konusvue 20x80 binos
Homebuilt 80mm f/5 refractor
Mirador 60mm f/12 1960's refractor
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Mark Schulz
super member
Reged: 09/06/04
Posts: 157
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Tom:
The finger grip portion on the modified Radian is already on every Radian. When you remove the "instajust" piece (really very easy) the part you see is revealed. It's there when you fully extend the eye cup on a non-modified Radian.
The reason I did this is to save weight and to make the ep's smaller and narrower. I never liked the instajust feature anyway.
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Mark Schulz
13.1" Tscopes Kit Dob
TV 85
127mm Orion mak
Denk II and Denk Standard Binoviewers
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