Becky
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I know this has been asked before but I can not find the answer. I curently own Orion Little Giants 20x70 and am expecting a pair of 25x100's soon. Can someone please tell where to find out how to align these things. My 20x70's dont seem right. Everything seems fuzzy to me. I cant get good views through them. Have never droped them and keep them in the case when not in use. Thanks for the help
Becky
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EdZ
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Becky
Here's the link to our collection of stuff on collimating
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/73181/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/vc/1
edz
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Becky
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Thanks for the quick reply
Becky
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Claudio
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Just fuzzy? no double vision? I wouldn't be so sure that your glass needs to be collimated. Maybe there is another problem.
Claudio
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Craig Simmons
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Becky, is it the center focus that doesn't bring the left eye into focus or is it the right diopter that doesn't bring the right eye into focus? Or does it focus and then slip out of focus?
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BillC
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Some folks do not know that the order of operation in focusing a CF bino is not optional, and focus the wrong side, first. Then focusing the other side puts the first side out of focus.
Cheers,
Bill
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Optical Mechanic, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
Founder, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
21-year Mgr., Optics Dept., Captain's Nautical Supplies
Optics Mechanic, Ft. Lewis, WA.
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EdZ
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I gave a presentation to an audience of 30-40 boyscouts and their parents last fall. More than half of them did not know the proper sequence to focus a binocular. Several of the parents commented they had been doing it wrong ever since they owned their binoculars.
Center dial first, then adjust the right diopter.
edz
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KennyJ
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By an amazing co -incidence , during a small social gathering , I carried out a little experiment this weekend , asking six adults , all of whom had used binoculars in the past , to show me how they adjusted centre - focus binoculars.
None of them knew the correct procedure !
Four of them were simply AMAZED at the improvement they found in the images once I showed them how to adjust properly.
None of them could believe the quality , brightness and sharpness of the image through the Zeiss 7 x 42s !
Three of them had no idea what the " numbers " 7 x 42 actually meant !
Regards , Kenny
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Anonymous
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That's interesting EdZ. You'd think that if you did it in the opposite order when you looked through your bins, you'd noticed right away that the overall focus was still goofy.
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Pinewood
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I find this strange, but I worked with cameras, long before I owned a binocular. The idea of focusing is rather apparent with bellows and ground glass on an old camera. With other cameras and with many roof prism glasses, the mechanics of the procedure are hidden. Even with a moving bridge on the binocular, there must be some folks who cannot encompass what they are actually doing.
Clear skies,
Arthur
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BillC
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Quote:
. . . The idea of focusing is rather apparent/
Clear skies,
Arthur
Nothing is apparent to people who slept through 5th through 9th grade science.
Cheers,
Bill
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Ophthalmic Tech, Naval Station, Everett, WA
Optical Mechanic, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
Founder, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
21-year Mgr., Optics Dept., Captain's Nautical Supplies
Optics Mechanic, Ft. Lewis, WA.
Contributing Editor for Numerous Magazines
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Mike B
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Yup. Kinda sad.
But i've heard it said that if all the students who regularly slept thru class were laid end-to-end...
they'd probably be a whole lot more comfortable 
 mike b
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BillC
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On many occasions, I've seen people walk down the line of spotting scopes in my window . . . Swarovski . . . Zeiss . . . Leica . . . Tele Vue . . . etc, and looking through each one in turn (WITHOUT ATTEMPTING TO TOUCH A FOCUS KNOB) head toward the door while telling a friend something like, "*BLEEEP*, 'can't see a *BLEEEP* thing through any of them."
I just smile, when what I REALLY want to do is say "Were you born stupid, or did you just get that way!?"
Yes, I know that is crude.
And, yes, it is true that I really like to help people.
BUT, I am only human, and sometimes people who need a pacemaker to breathe push me over the edge.
Excuse me while I go and repent!
Cheers,
Bill
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William J. Cook, Chief Opticalman, USNR-Ret.
Ophthalmic Tech, Naval Station, Everett, WA
Optical Mechanic, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
Founder, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
21-year Mgr., Optics Dept., Captain's Nautical Supplies
Optics Mechanic, Ft. Lewis, WA.
Contributing Editor for Numerous Magazines
It's better to be a "has been" than a "never was." But only barely; the pay is about the same!
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DJB
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Bill, I had a similar situation occur last summer, during the opposition of Mars.
It went somewhat like this. A small group of us went to the Kopernick Observatory, located outside Vestal, NY. We all had a look-see thru the largest scopes on a beautifully clear night.
A week or so later, we (most of us) discussed what we saw. Everyone but I was rather disappointed.
I asked: "You did focus the eyepiece, didn't you?" "Well, nope!" I knows what you means. What a waste of a beautiful engagement with our solar neighbor. That drive took a good half hour one way. In fact, I donated my first 8" Newt. to the observatory way back when. Oh well!
Regards again,
Dave.
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Ugh. That's a sad story Dave.
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DJB
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Hello,
Yes, it is a sad story. And, I feel that I should have advised my friends exactly what to do. What comes so easily to our instincts, well, we sometimes overlook to convey to others in a reasonable way. I still feel bad about this, an opportunity of a lifetime.
Thanks and regards,
Dave.
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grbrown
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Quote:
I find this strange... Even with a moving bridge on the binocular, there must be some folks who cannot encompass what they are actually doing.
....and then someone invented the video machine.... 
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