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PMB
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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: kraterkid]
      #530702 - 07/24/05 11:58 PM

From rags to riches!!! I love it! Your style has a unique realisim to it. Thanks

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kraterkid
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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: PMB]
      #530793 - 07/25/05 01:51 AM

Thanks Patrick,

Yes, this particular approach is well suited for creating sketches that appear almost photographic to the eye.
That's just one of the reasons I'm just going for this medium! Regardless of what method you are currently using, you can benefit from trying your hand at this technique. The simple awareness of where the light strikes various forms and shapes and its relative intensity across the sketched area will teach you wonderful lessons you can apply to any other technique you may already be comfortable with using. Besides that it easier than you think and a real hoot to boot.

Thanks again,
Rich

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: kraterkid]
      #531030 - 07/25/05 08:39 AM

That is a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing. It is really neat to see the progress of a sketch and see how it gets to the final sketch. Very nice.

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: typhus]
      #531101 - 07/25/05 10:10 AM

Thanks Shane,

After about 5 years using this medium I'm amazed how much I learn from every sketch. However I've found new techniques simply by mining the wonderful information that CN astrosketchers have left in their various posts. Recently, though I misunderstood the context in which she spoke, Carol L. wrote of using a brush for blending (I thought she was making little piles of powdered graphite, then dipping a soft bristled art brush into it and applying it directly to the paper. That's not what she was referring to, rather she was using the brush to blend the graphite already applied to the page. Before she could correct me, however, I created a powder of white Conte' by taking a stick and by vigorously rubbing it against a sanding pad, created a fine powder which I then applied to the paper with an art brush. The result was incredibly subtle and it enabled me to develop even finer control of the grey tone values! In point of fact, I owe Eric, Carol L. and Jeremy Perez, Sol, David M. and others here a debt of gratitude for some the techniques I am currently using, so thank you folk very much for your help. You guys are the big kahoonas of CN sketching.
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Thanks again for the kind words Shane,
Rich

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: kraterkid]
      #533563 - 07/27/05 06:56 AM

A superb sketch - really a work of art!! I've never seen this technique. Would you give me permission to use your step-by-step instructional for a presentation to my astro club. Carol L's step-by-step is already part of the presentation. Any other techniques out there????

Stan


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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: Stan Lopata]
      #533638 - 07/27/05 08:54 AM

Hi Stan,

Absolutely, I'd be honored and more than happy to help in any way possible, including the use in your presentation of any of my sketches or text posted here at CN. Stan, thank you kindly for the wonderful words.

You'd be amazed at the number of techniques that are currently being used by astronomical sketch artists. Along with the the "traditional" media of pen and ink (including line, wash and stipling approaches), pencil, carbon pencil and charcoal, new techniques such as my white on black paper medium, and with the advent of computer graphics software and light weight laptops, digital drawings done at the eyepiece. Undoubtedly there are several others not mentioned on this list, so you can start to see how varied the media of lunar sketching has become.

Thanks again,
Always willing to help,
Rich

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: kraterkid]
      #534919 - 07/28/05 07:33 AM

Hi Rich,

Thanks!! Hope to see a lot more of your great sketches here on the forum. Has anyone been doing ToUcam imaging and comparing it with a sketch done at approximately the same time? Might be interesting!

Stan

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: Stan Lopata]
      #534957 - 07/28/05 08:24 AM

Stan, Jerry has a few sketches that he did while imaging with a Meade LPI. I'll have to search for the finished LPI image, but here's the sketch he did from the laptop screen while imaging. Capuanus

(later after the search) Well there goes that idea. Here's the link with the finished images that same night. But Capuanus was just out of view on a few of those images.

However, I do know that there are a few photos that were submitted from others the same night as a few of the sketches for reports.

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: Erix]
      #535472 - 07/28/05 02:26 PM

For the time being I've made this thread sticky so it can hang with the other sketching-related material. In time there will be a sticky "Best Of" sort of thread containing this one and the other sketching technique threads. I don't know when I'll get around to it (I'm pressed for time even as I type) but if you suddenly notice things go missing, look for an all-in-one sketching sticky post up topside.

Oh, and Rich, nice work!

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Re: White on black paper lunar sketching technique new [Re: desertstars]
      #579242 - 08/29/05 05:55 PM

This thread has been unstuck and added to the "Best Of" thread.

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