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Diego
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Reged: 07/29/03
Posts: 179
Loc: Argentina South America
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Hello all,
Is it just me, or do these 2 stroke gas tools give everyone else problems? They run fine for a whole day, and the next day, it just won't start. I'm starting to hate them...
Diego
-------------------- Diego
Celestron 80 mm f11.4
Oberwerk 20x90
6" f7.8 Reflector
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lighttrap
Reged: 02/06/04
Posts: 3833
Loc: cloudy, foggy, humid NC, US
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Diego, I'm glad I'm not the only one who has fits with these gas engines. With the 2 stroke stuff, I find it really helps to use very fresh gas, and so I only mix up the gas/oil mixture in small batches.
If you ever take apart a weedwhacker, you'll be amazed at how crudely everything is made. It's a wonder to me that these gizmos work at all. The funny thing with those, is that the best one I ever had was also the cheapest. It was branded "Ryan" and though cheap, it put up with a level of abuse that my current WeedEater brand one won't tolerate. This namebrand one, is really finicky and tends to go through the monofilament spool heads at a ridiculous rate. Why they can't make a "bump n go" head that'll last more than a season, is beyond me.
Why do chainsaws, weedeaters, blowers and all those other 2 cycle engines all take different gas/oil mixtures? Now, that's a pain to try to keep up with.
It's not 2 cycle, but also in this general category of yard equipment that I fight with is the rototiller. Yesterday, I spent all day trying to keep my "Earthquake" brand rear-tine rototiller going long enough to till and furrow a 20'x60' vegetable plot. I've had it for 10 years, and since day one, it's required auxilary fuel priming just to get going. Generally, I have to take out the spark plug and pour gas directly in there just to get it to fire. Once going, it'll stay going until I shut it off, but even warm, it won't restart without more priming. Neither I, nor a small engine repair guy, have ever been able to get the carburator adjusted to take care of that major annoyance. I think it's due to putting the carb. on top of the gas tank, and gravity feed doesn't do well going up and through some radical tubing turns. Oh well.
The other annoyance with that equipment is that it has no freewheeling capability. That means that to move it, the engine has to be running and engaging the wheels and tines. Trying to start it in a small shed and back it out into the yard, with those tines spinning is really disconcerting. Don't ever buy a rototiller that doesn't have a clutch to allow the wheels to be disengaged from the transmission for easier movement around the yard!!!!
But, all these complaints not withstanding, it's great to be out working in the yard, again. I used to hate yardwork, but this time of year is exciting in the Northern hemisphere.
Mike Swaim
-------------------- 18" Starsplitter II f/4.5
8" Hardin Dob f/6
C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3
70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro
77mm Leica Televid APO
16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt.
12x50 Nikon SE
8x30 Nikon E2s
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Diego
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Reged: 07/29/03
Posts: 179
Loc: Argentina South America
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Hi Mike,
I never realized different machines require different mix. I just take a 1 gallon container and drop in the oil for all my machines. I now have 2 weedeaters and one chain saw. I've had a shop change the gaskets and diaphragms in the carb for both weedeaters (I used to do it myself, but I took it to them suspecting I was doing something wrong) any how, none of them worked with the new carb kit ($40 ea. kit). I then got used carbs for both of them and got one working now with the used carb, not sure for how long.
The chain saw is a whole different story. It's a quality tool (St**l).
Once it starts after a whole year of hibernating, it usually runs good for a *few* days, until the chain dulls..(don't get me started on sharpening) or what ever problem it may have next. It usually needs a squirt of gas in the carb to get started. Otherwise you can rip your arm off trying.
It seems that these lawn tools are all about hassling. The only one that's not givin me trouble yet is my H**da mower...comes to life everytime you pull the rope
-------------------- Diego
Celestron 80 mm f11.4
Oberwerk 20x90
6" f7.8 Reflector
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lighttrap
Reged: 02/06/04
Posts: 3833
Loc: cloudy, foggy, humid NC, US
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Diego, it all depends on what the manufacturer's specify for the individual equipment. There are all sorts of recommended oil/gas ratios depending on equipment and use. 16:1, 24:1, 32:1, 40:1, 50:1
Probably, 32:1 and 40:1 are the most commonly encountered in chainsaws and weedeaters. But, just beware that not all 2 cycle equipment can get by with the same ratio. If you run 40:1 mix in something that requires 16:1, you'll run into problems pretty quickly, and will greatly shorten the life of the engine. Likewise, if you do the reverse, it'll bog it down and foul the plug.
But the good news about all this stuff is that no matter how agravating it can be at times, it still beats having to feed and stable 5 horses! And as much as my weedwacker may irritate me, it's considerably better than using a sling blade.
Mike Swaim
-------------------- 18" Starsplitter II f/4.5
8" Hardin Dob f/6
C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3
70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro
77mm Leica Televid APO
16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt.
12x50 Nikon SE
8x30 Nikon E2s
and many others
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rboe
Reged: 03/16/02
Posts: 63466
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Our tiller has issues with old gas. Now I have rust in the gas tank. My father-in-law worked on it last year and said the jetting was all wrong. I use this thing for about an hour twice a year. My lawnmower ran better longer.
If only they had gardening grenades. Colour coded for the depth of tilling. Similar to the ones they use to clean out outhouse pits (Oli and Lena joke there).
2 cycle motors were put on this planet to sell electric motors and external combustion motors. No body got the joke. Oddly enough I have just not had that much problem with my weedwacker. Of course I have not used in a year so maybe I should take wack at it!
-------------------- Ron
NS11GPS
Pronto
16" dob
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Coronado SolarMax 40 on a Celestron 102 Wide Field
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lighttrap
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Loc: cloudy, foggy, humid NC, US
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Quote:
If only they had gardening grenades. Colour coded for the depth of tilling.
Hey man, you laugh, but I've got a book called "The Farmstead Book 1" that mentions "tillage by dyanamite" on page 11. "A type of tillage that has been used for soils inclining to a hardpan structure is the use of dynamite. The explosion of small charges of dynamite at frequent intervals (ten to twenty feet) in the subsoil, at a depth of two to three feet, is said to loosen the soil much as though a subsoil plow had been used."
Yeah, I'll bet! Wonder what the earthworms think of that idea? Actually, wonder what BATF and Homeland Security would think of that idea.
"Oh don't worry about that, ma'am. It's just that crazy Swaim kid making another melon patch."
Mike Swaim
-------------------- 18" Starsplitter II f/4.5
8" Hardin Dob f/6
C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3
70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro
77mm Leica Televid APO
16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt.
12x50 Nikon SE
8x30 Nikon E2s
and many others
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rboe
Reged: 03/16/02
Posts: 63466
Loc: Phx, AZ
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I used to tell my customers to go get a remodeling grenade. I would even recommend the colour to use for the size of the hole. More than one was glad to buy one instead of using the usual methods. Customers. Take 'em away and I would have loved my job.
-------------------- Ron
NS11GPS
Pronto
16" dob
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Coronado SolarMax 40 on a Celestron 102 Wide Field
Best of ATM
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Anonymous
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I am looking for anyone who may know some information on a Burns chainsaw. I have ran search on the web and have came up with nothing. If you know anything about this chain saw or know where I can look PLEASE let me know. Thanks in advance for your help!
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LivingNDixie
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Loc: Trussville, AL
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Well I got our chain saw and weedeater for free... Lets just say I have a inlaw (on the wifes side) that loves going to the county auction each week. Its amazing what he buys with just 5 or 10 dollars LOL. He even offered to give us one of those chainsaws with the huge blade that wraps arround but is really wide in the front...
-------------------- Preston
Meade 10in LX200R GPS UHTC
blog (updated 02/15/2013)
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Anonymous
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Chain saws are evil just plan evil, I have three bought one and my father in law gave me two that he could never get to start, payback? for marring his daughter??? But anyway I was cutting a black locust tree that fell in the back yard once, after each cut a resharpen is needed, the saw runs great as you say all that day, but when I went to get it the next morning it would not start for nothing!!! After pulling the rope till my arms where shaking I tossed it accross the yard into a pile of brush, and chained the rest of the tree to the tractor and dragged it off the property to the very back and burned it whole. Funny part is when I came back and picked the saw up from out the bush, I figured why not and gave it one more pull BOOM started first try ahhhhhhh I shut it off, put it up and glared at it for a min or two, before sulking off.
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rboe
Reged: 03/16/02
Posts: 63466
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Sven bought a chainsaw after the salesman said how much he could cut in one day - up to ten cord or more.
First day Sven worked like the devil himself but only cut three cord. End of day two found Sven dog tired and only two cord of wood so he went back to store to complain.
The salesman could not understand what the problem could be and started the chainsaw. Sven hollered "Vat's dat noise?"
-------------------- Ron
NS11GPS
Pronto
16" dob
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Coronado SolarMax 40 on a Celestron 102 Wide Field
Best of ATM
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rboe
Reged: 03/16/02
Posts: 63466
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Sad but true - I had users do the same thing with me when trying to use a computer. They turn off and on the monitor. Not the PC.
-------------------- Ron
NS11GPS
Pronto
16" dob
127mm F9 Surplus Shed/Crawmach kit scope
Coronado SolarMax 40 on a Celestron 102 Wide Field
Best of ATM
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StarWars
Mr. Postmaster Man
Reged: 11/26/03
Posts: 22112
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Forget the weed wackers and the 2 cycle oil... 
Get the Robo-Mower ...!!!
http://www.cordlesselectriclawnmowers.com/
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Craig Simmons
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/10/03
Posts: 1502
Loc: Falls Church, VA
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I've found the electric stuff works pretty good. I use a B&D lawnmower, 16" McCullouch chain saw, Sears Weedeater leaf blower and a Toro electric weed macker. Easy on the ears too.
-------------------- Craig Simmons
Oberwerk 8x56, 20x90
Nikon Action IV 10x50
Barska 15x70
Galileo 20x60
Stellarvue 15x63, 20x85
Orion XT10 pre-Classic
Antares 10
Stellarvue AT1010
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