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KennyJ
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Partial Eclipse new
      #891195 - 03/29/06 04:03 PM

True to form , as soon as I realised ( last Saturday ) that there was to be a partial eclipse of the sun today , it started raining , and when I checked the five day forecast at the time , the rain looked set to continue throughout the whole week .

This was doubtless good news for fish , fisherpersons , rivers , reservoirs , farmers , the environment agency , water authorities and those strange people who rush to their GPs for anti - depression prescriptions at the first sign of a clear blue sky .

Surely enough , it had hardly stopped raining for the past four days , when yesterday morning , the forecast for today suddenly altered to SUNNY INTERVALS , after a dry frosty night !

What had made me PARTICULARLY interested in THIS celestial event was the fact that , courtesy of the Cloudy Nighter Mysterioso , I STILL have the Oberwerk 12 x 60 on loan , along with their customised objective solar filters !

I heard on the TV news that the partial eclipse was set to start at around 10.30 local time , and yesterday , the hand of fate dealt me a day working in the beautiful setting of Windermere in the English Lake district .

I awoke to an almost CLOUDLESS sky ( such a dramatic and welcome change from the dreadful , dreary weather we've been suffering for so long here ) and just the 90 minute drive up there was therapeutic , with breathtaking views of the old familiar craggy peaks of the Lakeland fells altering with every slight change of direction , growing in appearance as I miled closer to them every minute .

The location of my work was the Air Training Corps centre , which adjoins an Adventure Training Centre , usually a hive of young hikers , rock climbers , canoeists and rope knotters in general , but which unusually , was unoccupied today , apart from three members of staff .

I arrived at the site just before 9am. and decided to make a point of mentioning the forthcoming event upon arrival , during introductory chat about what a lovely morning it was ( the weather is something of a national OBSESSION with us British citizens ! )

None of the three members of staff were aware of the partial eclipse about to take place , which surprised me slightly , they all supposedly being the creme de la creme of OUTDOOR activities types .

The nature of the work I was carrying out , and especially it's LOCATION , lent itself very conveniently to me being able to pop out a few times during the couple of hours over which the event covered .

Following something I learned only very recently via a discussion about binoculars on another forum , i.e that it is just as easy to hold 10x binoculars steady as it is 7x or 8x models , I decided NOT to take a tripod or even a neck monopod along , and just enjoy the total freedom of hand - holding the 12x binoculars .

I first went out just after 10.30 to see a tiny black crescent shape of the moon covering the lower right part of the sun in roughly the 4 - 5 o' clock ( or south east ) area , also immediately noticing , to no little personal delight , a DISTINCT black sun spot just inwards from the 9 o' clock position , with a feinter greyish one , almost in perfect alignment with it , at 9 o' clock , roughly half way between it and the edge of the sun's sphere .

For those who have never seen the sun through a sun filter , it looks a glorious , warm orange / yellow colour , and is not unlike looking at the moon through binoculars when it is close to the horizon in a small clear area on an otherwise murky evening , but with absolutely NO details visible .

The two male members of staff accompanied me outside and were both delighted when I offered them the binoculars in turn to take a look for themselves , even though it took both of them what seemed forever to FIND the sun through them !

It's funny how SOME people just seem to have no idea when it comes to AIMING binoculars towards celestial objects .
When in the midst of such people ,I can usually tell , even when standing some distance from them , that they are aiming nowhere near where they OUGHT to be !

These two guys were no different .

For " outward bound " instructors , I found this mildly amusing :-)

Incredibly , it was the first time EITHER of them had ever SEEN ANY kind of solar eclipse , and both of them seemed genuinely as THRILLED as I was .

Another minute - long glance at around 10.45 showed a larger section of the sun , in the 5 o'clock position , blotted out with a perfect black crescent shaped disc .

I detected no chromatic aberration whatsover with the sun centralised in the binocular view , but moving the binoculars around slightly so as to place it at the top and bottom and right and left of the 5.7 degree TFOV showed quite distinctive edges , or bands of RED , GREEN , YELLOW and YELLOW respectively , the RED forming a particularly striking contrast between the sheer black area covered by the moon and the deep yellow of the sun .

Half an hour later , at 11.15 , the " black moon " was occupying was appeared to be PRECISELY the bottom ( 6 o' clock ) area of the sun , forming a perfectly symmetrical segment which was truly BEAUTIFUL to behold through the Oberwerk 12 x 60s / solar filters .

Clouds had started rolling in from the south west by this stage , and the visual effect of them moving quickly across the face of the sun , gave the illusion of the sun , a perfect yellow ball , with a perfect jet black section at the bottom , SPINNING around behind a curtain of dry ice .

VERY memorable -- very EERIE -- indeed , SURREAL !

How I wish I could have RECORDED those few minutes for posterity !

Even a few still photos would have been great mementos , and proved a priceless addition to this little account .
I've seen a few photos taken today by amateur enthusiasts far more given to photography than I will ever be , but none of the photos have come close to matching the magic of seeing what I saw LIVE !

I was so impressed by this view that I called the two members of staff out again to share it with them , but feeling a little awkward in the situation of THEY ( or at least their employers ) actually paying me for carrying out a professional job on their premises , I had to cut these observing sessions short and sweet .

They were certainly VERY impressed by the views though .

I'd somehow PRESUMED that this lowest positioning of the moon against the sun would coincide with the it's largest intrusion , but another quick look , approaching midday , showed that it had not only moved to the 8 'o' clock position of the face of the sun , but was now covering an even larger area of it .

In fact , I was quite surprised to see , about 20 minutes later , that the event was all over , but I was very pleased that for ONCE , a celestial event of ANY kind , had co - incided with clear , dry weather .

Even those few clouds added much to the drama !

Another thing I had the presence of mind to check again whilst observing these wondrous sites , was the difference ( recently mentioned in a binocular forum ) in BRIGHTNESS or SHADE between what is seen through either EYE .

The sun through my right eye appeared distinctly LIGHTER than it did through my left , even when I inverted the binoculars so as to be looking through the left objective with the right eye .

Now WHAT is that old saying ?

AH -- that's it !

It's all in the eyes of the beholder !

Regards , Kenny

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ngc6475
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Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: KennyJ]
      #891220 - 03/29/06 04:22 PM

Good for you, Kenny! It seems the weather, the sun, and the moon all cooperated to give you a good view of the partial eclipse. Eclipses are special events that seem to move people in some visceral sense, and many folks will travel around the world to witness these events as often as possible. It's not often we are lucky enough that such a rare event happens in our own particular vicinity, and it is fortunate that things worked out for you! Thanks for sharing your experience with us less fortunate souls!

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Walter

"There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls."
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dgs©
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Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: ngc6475]
      #891253 - 03/29/06 04:50 PM

I'm glad to hear of your sudden weather improvement, Kenny. Just in time to catch a rare event, and a couple of sunspots to top it off!
I couldn't see it myself of course, even if it were not cloudy. So, I enjoyed reading of your experience and the chance to share the view with a couple of neophytes.

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- david
8"Ø Newtonian on SVP, Moonlite CR2, Telrad
PST Oberwerk Ultra 15x70 Orion Ultraview 10×50
Hand-me-down Sears Refractor (Discoverer) 60mm×900mm



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pcad
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 01/17/05
Posts: 2447
Loc: Connecticut
Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: dgs©]
      #891498 - 03/29/06 07:42 PM

Kenny,

What a great way for a certified bino nut to expand his horizons! I've yet to see a classic solar eclipse, either partial or total. I'm sure you'll remember this event for a very long time.

It's nice that you saw some sunspots also. They're almost as rare as eclipses these days ;-) Sunspot activity should start to increase again later this year or next year.

In the future look for the transit of Mercury later this year. Farther in the future is a repeat of the transit of Venus which is an even rarer event. I was fortunate to have seen the transit of Venus a few years ago. I guess that qualifies as a micro-eclipse. Looked just like a perfectly round sunspot that transversed the face of the Sun in just a few hours.

Using safe solar filters is a great way to add to the enjoyment of using binoculars and telescopes.

Way to go Kenny!

Peter

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Peter

Telescopes 25 - 318 mm
Binoculars 12 - 100 mm
Microscope 50x - 1000x


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johnno
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Reged: 05/03/04
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Re: Partial Eclipse [Re: KennyJ]
      #891560 - 03/29/06 08:29 PM

Hi All,

Kenny,
Thank you for that Extremely interesting read.

Glad you enjoyed the experience,I will have to get a set of solar filters,they open up a whole new world of viewing.

Best Regards.
John


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04
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Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: johnno]
      #891778 - 03/29/06 11:21 PM

Kenny,

When using a Nikon EII to look at stained glass, from inside, on a Sunday, I noticed that in one eye, there was greater color saturation of the yellow glass than with the other. It was a difference in perception between my two eye, having little to do with the binocular. A correspondent, a psychologist, assured me that such differences in perception are common. Views with the starboard eye will differ from the port eye, and both may differ from the combined view.

As you have a preference to use both eyes, you now realize that there is a difference between our own binocular and monocular views.

Clear skies,
Arthur

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Claudio
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Reged: 07/26/04
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Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: KennyJ]
      #892702 - 03/30/06 05:18 PM

There is another eclipse that SEEMS to take place unobserved from many members, though I am sure that EVERYBODY noticed some colourlessness and a strange dim light in the most recent threads of the Binoculars section.
It is only the fifth day, but I am already afraid that sort of eclipse could risk to become permanent. Our much-loved companion, when your gentle irony will peep in again in that forum?
Your friend Claudio


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pcad
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 01/17/05
Posts: 2447
Loc: Connecticut
Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: Claudio]
      #893016 - 03/30/06 09:41 PM

I've noticed and I share your sentiments.

Peter

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Peter

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richtea
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Reged: 02/01/05
Posts: 309
Loc: UK Yorkshire
Re: Partial Eclipse new [Re: pcad]
      #893345 - 03/31/06 05:28 AM

Hi

Yes Of late there does seem to be have been a distinct lack of the usual incisive and interesting input from a certain Lancastrian chap (Hi Kenny) and the highly helpful Edz
I find this a shame even though i am a Yorkshireman (UK joke) and only hope the rather inexplicable recent exchange between these two very helpful and knowledgeable chaps has not resulted in a loss for either of them or all of us forum members

From my time on CN everything always seem to be open for friendly debate be it optics or forum direction/style

So please dont let this forum loose out for a few hasty words
Life' far too short

Just my thoughts for today

Regards
Rich T

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10x C/Zeiss Jenoptem/Nikon SE/E11/Swift Ultralite/Hawke B/Watch WP/ Praktica WA Porro/Olympus Wide /Brunton Porro
10 x Belomo Loupe + 10/20 x Silver Geo Loupe
10 x Celestron Regal LX Roof
9x Opticron Minerva Porro
8.5x Swift Audobon FMC Porro
8x Nikon E11/Minolta Activa WPFP/Praktica WA Porros/Smith Wesson(Pentax)Roof/Bushnell Discoverer Roofs/Olympus Wide PC Porro
7x Fujinon CDPC Roof
6.5x Pentax Papilo reverse porro
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