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Joe Ogiba
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Apogee RA-88-SA first look
      #176450 - 08/20/04 03:21 PM

It's hot and humid and the eyepieces fog up when I looked thru them in the last hour after the UPS guy delivered them so I will wait until later in the day to take them out again. They look great but the eyepieces are larger than 1.25" so you need a sleeve to use the 1.25" eyepieces. I am sure someone will make the sleeves so they fit. Here is a photo of them.


Cool skies,
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Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #176490 - 08/20/04 04:08 PM

Looking forward to your impressions, they look nice!

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #176492 - 08/20/04 04:10 PM

Joe,
They certainly look nice. Hope you are satisfied with the views. Please let us know how they perform.
Clear Skies,


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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: 777Guy]
      #176577 - 08/20/04 05:59 PM

I put the RA-88-SA's on my digital bathroom scale and the weight was 14 lbs so you will need a HD mount and my Unimount Light Deluxe or Unistar Light both have a 10 lb limit. But my Giro 2 mount has a 22lb limit and I might make an adapter for it.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #176734 - 08/20/04 10:45 PM

I'm very interested in these - please use 'em!

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #176922 - 08/21/04 07:16 AM

Please review

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: ]
      #177297 - 08/21/04 08:45 PM

Man,what you need those boogers on is one of Tim Hagens Hercules mounts.That mount wouldn't even know they were there. Wayne

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Wayne Parrish]
      #177342 - 08/21/04 10:34 PM

The skies just cleared and I put them on my old Bogen 3040/3047 tripod/head setup and I think my Giro 2 will work great once I get a bracket made to attach to one of my spare Celestron/Vixen dovetail plates so it can attach to the Giro 2 Quick - exchange mounting plate for Vixen/Celestron Dovetails. From what I seen in the one hour I had them out they really work great and they will compliment my Denk II binoviewer setup with my scopes like the C9.25 and Meade 102ED. The 20x 52° and 32x 66° eyepieces are nice and sharp and from the short time I looked at the moon after the rain and clouds cleared it looked like it had less false color than my 20x80 Oberwerk Deluxe. I will do a side by side test tomorrow night. The main reason I purchased them is for the 90° angle view because when I use my big 20x80 and 25x100 on my Unimount Light Deluxe lying in by bino chair looking near the zenith I didn't like a 10 lb bino floating above my eyeballs.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #178190 - 08/23/04 03:38 AM

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the initial impression. I was wondering, if you have the time, if you could post a picture of the Objectives and a picture of the focusers without the eyepieces installes (so the prisms are visable).

I am just curious how the design differs from the Miyauchi and China 45° 26x100's

Thanks,
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Mad Matt]
      #178520 - 08/23/04 01:43 PM

Quote:

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the initial impression. I was wondering, if you have the time, if you could post a picture of the Objectives and a picture of the focusers without the eyepieces installes (so the prisms are visable).

I am just curious how the design differs from the Miyauchi and China 45° 26x100's

Thanks,
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12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #178525 - 08/23/04 01:45 PM

Last night I had them along side my C9.25 with Denk II's (PowerX Switch) with 20mm Pentax XW's (70°)and 20mm WideScan III's (84°) checking out the 1st Qtr moon . I also had my Apogee 25x100 binos on my Unimount Light Deluxe so it turned out to be a feast for the eyes. They have less false color than the 25x100's and during the daytime I checked them out against my 20x80 Oberwerk Deluxe and also my 20x60 Pentax binos and the RA-88-SA's had less color than them also so the Triplet Objectives do work well.

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12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
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Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #178556 - 08/23/04 02:14 PM

Optimal images
How it is the image to 32x of the Moon, contrast, resolution?
Tasks that can be increases magnification to 60X-120x, with secondary eyepieces?


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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: ]
      #178690 - 08/23/04 04:14 PM

At 32x the moon had great contrast and resolution with no internal reflections. I stuck a 32mm Plossl in them and I got some vignetting but my 25mm Celestron X-Cel with 55° AFOV did not vignette so it works with up to a 24mm field stop eyepiece but will not focus on infinity unless you shorten the eyepiece to get all the optics inside the focuser like the 20x and 32x eyepieces. The 20x eyepiece looks like it has about 20mm eye relief and the 32x about 12mm usable ER.

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12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #178785 - 08/23/04 05:48 PM

They have said to me that model TS, sold from APM, has one equivalent focal of 480mm, confirmations?

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: ]
      #178861 - 08/23/04 07:09 PM

Joe,

Thanks for the informative comments.

It seems a pity about the problems with certain eyepieces , but all in all this 90 degree genuine "binocular" might well prove to be a "winner" with many , and hopefully shake a few other manufacturers into realisation that "user comfort" is a very important aspect of this hobby.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: ]
      #178918 - 08/23/04 08:11 PM

Quote:

They have said to me that model TS, sold from APM, has one equivalent focal of 480mm, confirmations?



If it has a 480mm FL then it would have a focal ratio of F5.455 and the 20x eyepiece would be a 24mm with 52° AFOV/2.6° FOV , the 26x would be an 18.5mm with 52° AFOV/2°FOV and the 32x would be like a 15mm Orion Expanse with 66° AFOV or 2.06 FOV.

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12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: KennyJ]
      #178943 - 08/23/04 08:38 PM

Quote:

Joe,

Thanks for the informative comments.

It seems a pity about the problems with certain eyepieces , but all in all this 90 degree genuine "binocular" might well prove to be a "winner" with many , and hopefully shake a few other manufacturers into realisation that "user comfort" is a very important aspect of this hobby.

Clear skies , Kenny.



Kenny,

I took a pair of 20mm Orion Expanse eyepieces removed the 1.25" barrel's ,put some tape around the eyepieces and put winged eyeguards on and got them to focus about the same as the eyepieces that came with them. They vignette a little but it looks like I am getting 60° AFOV compared to the full 66° AFOV and they focused on the moon without a problem. They would give it 24x and 2.5° FOV.

Clear skies,
Joe



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Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #179126 - 08/23/04 11:36 PM

Stop it! You're about to cost me money! (Thanks)

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Rusty]
      #179249 - 08/24/04 02:45 AM

Perhaps not SO much a problem after all then ?

I like the photos by the way.

But what's THAT I see ? -- a lightweight tripod ?

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: KennyJ]
      #179360 - 08/24/04 08:46 AM

Quote:

Perhaps not SO much a problem after all then ?

I like the photos by the way.

But what's THAT I see ? -- a lightweight tripod ?

regards , Kenny.



Kenny,

With a wide-angle shot up close to the binos it makes the tripod look small but it's a HD Bogen 3046 with 26.5 lb capacity. I ordered the HD Bogen 516 fluid pan head that will replace the 3047 photo head so it should work much better. I do plan on getting the Bogen - Manfrotto 3068 Super Pro tripod with 40 lb capacity in few months. I have a Unimount Light Deluxe (shown with my Apogee 25x100's)and a Unistar Light (shown with my Oberwerk 20x80 Deluxe)that both will work but the RA-88-SA is at the limit with them.

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Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Rusty]
      #179407 - 08/24/04 09:50 AM

Quote:

Stop it! You're about to cost me money! (Thanks)



That's what I said to Barry Simon when he posted this photo of his Bogen 516 twin arm fluid pan head with is 20x100 binos . I ordered it the same day after seeing that photo. Here is another photo of the Bogen 516 head.

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Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #179423 - 08/24/04 10:06 AM

Many thanks for this review, this binoculars is much beautiful!

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: ]
      #180184 - 08/24/04 11:29 PM

I'm weakening....

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Two not-spoiled Golden Retrievers - Casey and Nelson

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Rusty]
      #180806 - 08/25/04 06:57 PM

I mounted them to my Unimount Light Deluxe and they work ok but the HD version would be a better match.

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12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: KennyJ]
      #182357 - 08/27/04 06:47 PM

Quote:

But what's THAT I see ? -- a lightweight tripod ?




Kenny,

Here is a photo of them on that Bogen 3046 tripod with the eyepieces at eyelevel and on the Unistar Light mount.



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Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
21mm Ethos,17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom, 31mm Axiom LX
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #182677 - 08/28/04 01:33 AM

Yer killin' me!

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NJP Temma II//Sirius EQ-G
Too Many Astro-Cameras//Mallincam Color Hyper Plus
Two not-spoiled Golden Retrievers - Casey and Nelson

Lot 19 Deerlick Astronomy Village (Canis Major)


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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Rusty]
      #182757 - 08/28/04 07:22 AM

Good Morning Joe,

Did you get in any observing time last night?

I just noticed your photos above do not show a finder. I have no experience using binos with either 45 or 90 deg angled EPs. Do you find it relatively easy to locate objects with the RA-88 without a finder? Up to what X?

I find it relatively easy to locate objects with ~3.2 deg FOV. It takes a little more practice with 2.5 deg FOV but it's do able. But that's with straight thru EPs. I think it would be more difficult for me with angled EPs.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Erik D]
      #183005 - 08/28/04 04:43 PM

Hi Erik,

I didn't get out last night but I was out a few nights this past week checking out the moon with my RA-88SA's,Canon 12x36 IS II's,Apogee 25x100's,Oberwerk Deluxe 20x80's and C9.25 with Denk II binoviewer. I am going to see if someone has a finder bracket that will fit the RA-88-SA's were the handle fits.

Joe

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Pentax PF-80ED,Meade 102ED APO,Orion EON 72,120ST
Apex 127,C6 XLT,CR150,C9.25,XT10 ,Celestron Regal 100 F-ED, CT152
Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II , Pentax 8x32 ED
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #183102 - 08/28/04 08:08 PM

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I didn't get out last night but I was out a few nights this past week checking out the moon with my RA-88SA's,Canon 12x36 IS II's,Apogee 25x100's,Oberwerk Deluxe 20x80's and C9.25 with Denk II binoviewer.




Can you give us some feeling for the sharpness of the RA-88's. How does on and off axis sharpness compare to your other binoculars/scopes?


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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: btschumy]
      #183153 - 08/28/04 09:10 PM

It's about the same on axis as the binos and C9.25 (all sharp) I had out the other night and had better sharpness on the edge than the 20x80 and 25x100 binos with the 32x eyepiece and even better with the 20x eyepiece. In the daytime it had much less false color than the 25x100 and 20x80's and even beat my 20x60 Pentax with less false color.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #184957 - 08/31/04 10:55 AM

I cancelled my backordered Bogen 516 head and ordered the new Helix Mfg 12" Hercules Fork mount that should also work great with my Apogee 25x100's and Apex 127 5" Mak with Denk II's.

http://www.helix-mfg.com/hercules.htm

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #188731 - 09/04/04 09:04 PM

Well, my Ober 22x100s sold (amazing what can happen when you price 'em right!), the the RA-88-SAs are on temporary order.

I say temporary, because I ordered a couple of small items from Apogee a month ago...one wasn't in stock (1-1/2 weeks expected - I said ship both together). After three weeks I emailed the rep. No answer. Four days later, I re-sent the email...still no response.

I'm going to call them Tuesday and see what's up; if they're that cavalier about customers, I'll not attempt to inflict my business on them...

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Rusty]
      #188816 - 09/04/04 10:51 PM

Rusty,

Are you far enough north of Gainesville to have dark skies ? It looks like you will be getting alot of rain in the next couple days.

Clear skies,
Joe

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #188823 - 09/04/04 11:06 PM

I'm far enough north of Gainesville, but I also live in the woods. My Southern horizon (my best) is 75*. I have to go to the club's Dark Sky site to have any views at all. Even when it's clear, which hasn't happened since May...

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA/Finder? new [Re: Rusty]
      #198625 - 09/16/04 08:39 PM

I talked to Jason Faworski at Apogee today - they just received a batch today, with the next shipment expected in about 20 days (from which mine will come.)

He said that, due to order volume, before long, delivery won't be until January '05.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: 777Guy]
      #355780 - 02/25/05 12:46 AM

Was there ever a formal review done on these?

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Scott R]
      #355816 - 02/25/05 02:28 AM

Have they even arrived yet is what I'd like to know ?

I note they were ordered by 4th. September 2004.

It will be March 2005 in three days time !

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Scott R]
      #355954 - 02/25/05 08:39 AM

I haven't seen anything further from Joe on the RA-88s, but I have a (not so formal) review starting at message #301125.

The upshot was that I didn't care for them and sent them back.

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: btschumy]
      #356531 - 02/25/05 07:55 PM

Hmmmm - I canceled my order shortly after my last post, as my astrobucks got diverted to a little (80mm) APO, since order fulfillment was up in the air (not Apogee's fault).

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Re: Apogee RA-88-SA first look new [Re: Joe Ogiba]
      #1236074 - 11/05/06 12:04 PM

Joe I really like the way you view, that chair could make me a permanent back yard dweller all I need is a hevy blanket and just pass out there.

BTW little has been said about these binoculars for day time use, let me just add that they are *extremely* sharp RACI units, my wife and I were looking at a tree 2 blocks away and we could see the ants walking up the trees, the birds were just awesome, so these units can do as land use as well.

regards and clears skies

Roman

Ps: once again this is a old therad but worth the update.
and i like your ideas on alternate eyepieces, think I will hunt down another mate for my old Televue 26mm Ploss as it's my favorite eyepiece and might just stick those in there sans barrell just to see.

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