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djohannsen
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Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guides..
      #1960720 - 11/04/07 02:13 PM

I am a novice viewer looking for a book recommendation from the knowledgeable crowd who hang out here. I have a couple of astronomy viewing guides (Sky & Telescope's "Binocular Highlights" and Tirion's "Deep Sky Observer's Guide"), but I would love more depth. In particular, in addition to lists of objects with brief descriptions of what one is seeing, I would love much more scientific detail (I would happily trade breadth for depth). I am not a physicist, but I am a professional mathematician, so I could handle something reasonably sophisticated (though not a graduate level astrophysics text). Can anyone recommend something along the lines that I have described? Alternatively, has anyone yet read "Astrophysics is Easy" by Inglis? The dust jacket description sounds intriguing, but I haven't yet been able to lay my hands on the book in order to give it a look. I would be grateful for any opinions.


Dave


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Arbacia
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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: djohannsen]
      #1960834 - 11/04/07 02:52 PM

I have also Scientific background. Check these:

"Webb Society Deep-Sky Observerīs Handbook". Several authors & volumes. Is a series of small books but quite interesting ones. Each book dedicated to a type of objects: Double stars, Clusters, etc.

"Burnham's Celestial Handbook". Three volumes. A real classic.

Recently, I ordered
"The Night Sky Observer's Guide" By Kepple & Sanner. ISBN-13: 978-0943396583

Probably you will enjoy the O'Meara's books "Deep sky companions: Messier Objects" DSC: Caldwell catalogue" and the last one "DSC: hidden treasures"

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: Arbacia]
      #1960856 - 11/04/07 02:58 PM

I was also going to recommend the O'Meara books. They may be just what you are looking for

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: chanda7]
      #1961576 - 11/04/07 08:26 PM

>...so I could handle something reasonably sophisticated <

A third recommendation for the O'Meara books here. And although still marketed as a viewing guide as such, Sue French's 'Celestial Sampler' has a wonderful depth of detail and enjoyable reading. Chockablock full of good stuff.

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: RichardHK]
      #1962206 - 11/05/07 03:07 AM

>Sue French's 'Celestial Sampler'<

I agree. Becouse of the size, and details, It is part also of my field guides. As RichardHK said: "enjoyable reading"

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: Arbacia]
      #1966866 - 11/06/07 08:59 PM

You might check out the "Concise Catalog of Deep-sky Objects: Astrophysical Information for 500 Galaxies, Clusters and Nebulae" by W.H. Finlay.

This great little book gives a paragraph or two about each object, telling why it is astrophysically interesting.

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: btschumy]
      #1966929 - 11/06/07 09:26 PM

I highly recommend "The Night Sky Observer's Guide" By Kepple & Sanner.

Excellent mix of astronomical information, along with locating and viewing tips.

But for going deep: Burnham's Celestial Handbook

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: Jaxdialation]
      #1967613 - 11/07/07 07:43 AM

A little bit off topic (but not much), if you want a book that goes into depth about the Moon, I can thoroughly recommend 'A Modern Moon', by Charles Wood.

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: Michael Morris]
      #1967666 - 11/07/07 08:16 AM

Quote:

A little bit off topic (but not much), if you want a book that goes into depth about the Moon, I can thoroughly recommend 'A Modern Moon', by Charles Wood.




Very much seconded. Extremely well written and crammed with info by someone who also seems to be a really nice guy (I know that's secondary but somehow for me it factors in).

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: chexmix]
      #1967965 - 11/07/07 11:06 AM

It's easier to "listen" to information presented by nice people.

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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guid new [Re: desertstars]
      #1968074 - 11/07/07 12:00 PM

Quote:

Extremely well written and crammed with info by someone who also seems to be a really nice guy (I know that's secondary but somehow for me it factors in).




Hi folks,

Agree totally with the "Modern Moon" being an excellent read. It is a great overview of the geological processes on the Moon as a whole by a scientist who was involved at the time of the Apollo missions. If you want to read an interview with Charles Wood then you might like to download the November/December 2004 issue of Arcturus from our club web site http://www.southdublinastronomy.org/wiki/Arcturus

I'd also echo the comments about "Celestial Sampler" and many other books mentioned in the thread -- all are equally excellent in conveying a sense of "what" you are seeing.

Mike Inglis also wrote another book called "Field Guide to the Deep Sky Objects" which gives a bit of astrophysical information behind each class of deep sky object as well as examples of each you can view. Very interesting book and whets the appetite to delve into other core books on particular types of deep sky object such as "Star Clusters" by Archinal and Hynes.

The Springer series of Practical Observing Guides have various titles on specific classes of objects such as "Star Clusters" by Mark Allison, "Nebulae" by Steve Coe, "Planetary Nebulae", by Owen Brazell (not yet published), and much more.

I've seen mention of "Astrophysics is Easy" and would be interested seeing what it's all about too. I think the Amazon web site allows you "Browse Inside" where the table of contents is viewable.

atb,

John


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Re: Recommend a book that goes beyond viewing guides.. new [Re: djohannsen]
      #1968435 - 11/07/07 02:40 PM

Quote:

I would love more depth. In particular, in addition to lists of objects with brief descriptions of what one is seeing, I would love much more scientific detail (I would happily trade breadth for depth). I am not a physicist, but I am a professional mathematician, so I could handle something reasonably sophisticated (though not a graduate level astrophysics text).


Dave





All of the above suggestions are good ones for observational astronomy.

If you would like more rigor as a professionally trained mathematician, then something like

Galaxies in the Universe : An Introduction
Sparke and Gallagher
Cambridge University Press 2000

might interest you. This textbook is aimed at upper division undergraduate students in physics and astronomy and discusses the astrophysics of Stars, Galaxies and Groups of Galaxies with all the rigorous mathematics thrown in for your reading pleasure.

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djohannsen
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Thank you everyone... new [Re: djohannsen]
      #1969321 - 11/07/07 08:37 PM

I'm sorry that I haven't been around to be more involved in this thread, but I just haven't been able to get to the computer for a couple of days. I am grateful for all the recommendations - there's a lot to digest here. My first choice would be a completely rigorous astrophysics book, however I just don't know enough physics to make my way through such a text. Besides that, physicists just make me crazy when they do mathematics - they are so imprecise and so lacking in rigor that I just want to pull my hair out! So, I do feel a bit stuck between a rock and a hard place - imprecise hand waving is not satisfying, but I don't have the background to really grok the physics.

Well, there is much here for me to work through... Some of these can be had quite inexpensively through Amazon (I'm OK with buying used books), so I will definitely be acting on many of the recommendations. It will be fun to do a bit of reading to find something just at the level that I will find satisfying. Again, thanks to everyone for being so generous with your time.

Dave


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