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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #509343 - 07/09/05 01:34 PM

Eric,

Stunning inverted image, just fantastic work delineating the nebulosity and the hallmark stellar associations.

Thanks,

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: kraterkid]
      #510485 - 07/10/05 07:53 PM

Erika: You're most welcome.

Rich: Thanks for the kind words.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #510756 - 07/11/05 12:04 AM

Eric, I've put your tutorial to use last night. I tried to do the entire sketch by remembering your steps to see how I got along with it. Any pointers?

M71
M27

The bright blob around the star at the bottom of M27 was very apparent and I'm not sure if it was condensation on my EP, but sketched it anyway as it was what I saw.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #511089 - 07/11/05 10:23 AM

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M71
M27





I don't have any pointers, only compliments . Those are awesome sketches, Erika ! I knew you're an expert at lunar sketching and just found out you're an expert at DSO sketching as well. Eric is a great teacher indeed.

I look forward to see more.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Ron B[ee]]
      #511118 - 07/11/05 10:49 AM

Those are beautiful, Erika! Keep up the good work.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #511140 - 07/11/05 11:12 AM

Nice work Erika, I may get a chance to try tonight.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: oldsalt]
      #511243 - 07/11/05 12:08 PM

Thanks guys! Eric, it seemed to make a big difference using your tutorial. Thank you for posting it.

Jim, I'll look forward to seeing more of your sketches and hope you get a chance for viewing tonight!

Ron, you know, I still feel like a child learning the ropes at sketching, but thank you for your kind words.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #511511 - 07/11/05 02:58 PM

Very nice, Erika! I like both sketches but M71 looks especially good--almost three dimensional. You took your time following Eric's step-by step process and it shows.

Eric--thanks for posting your tutorial. Between what you've posted and Bill Ferris's tutorials, no one can say that they haven't been shown how.

It brings to mind my Tai Chi teacher. Our class would meet once a week and he would show us a new movement, then say, "Now go home and perfect yourself."

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Special Ed]
      #512016 - 07/11/05 07:58 PM

Thanks, Michael. You're input & encouragement is always appreciated.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #513784 - 07/12/05 09:30 PM

Beautiful tutorial, Eric!
Wow.. hadn't checked this Forum for a few days and look what I missed.


Making a good copy of the sketch the next day with proper lighting is a great idea. Do you use a red light to sketch with? I tried but couldn't see anything unless it was way too bright. Switched to a very dim white one and it seemed to help a lot.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Carol L]
      #514421 - 07/13/05 11:27 AM

Erika: Once again, most welcome!

Thank you, Michael & Carol!

I do use a red light (this one, in fact) while sketching. I really like the variable brightness feature, so I can adjust it to the minimum illumination I need to do the sketch. This is often enough to put a small dent in my dark adaptation, but that tends to recover fairly quickly (in about 1 minute, or so) from the red light.

I also try to segregate, as much as possible, the time spent looking through the eyepiece and the time spent sketching. I spend a good deal of time just observing the object, attempting to memorize its appearance and sketching as much of it as possible before finally returning to eyepiece to double-check what I've drawn and look for additional features. This is much easier on faint galaxies than bright star clusters, of course, and depends a great deal on the complexity of the subject.

I should mention that I think I would have a hard time doing this without an EQ mount, because I'll often spend 10-15 minutes working on the sketch before going back to the eyepiece. If I had to reaquire the target after each trip to the sketch pad, I'm fairly certain that would drive me nuts. Those of you producing sketches with a Dobsonian or other Alt-Az set-up have my respect and admiration!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #518011 - 07/15/05 05:45 PM

Just to give everyone here a heads-up, Carol L has provided us with a step-by-step guide to sketching lunar features in this thread over in the LunieBin.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #518023 - 07/15/05 05:54 PM

Nice pointers Eric - you and I have similar sketching techniques.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #527990 - 07/22/05 07:04 PM

Thanks, Stacy. I'd love to see some of your sketches.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #530842 - 07/25/05 02:58 AM



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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #532758 - 07/26/05 03:47 PM

More of what Daniel said:

Those drawings are amazing. I think the reason I like sketching better than AP is because I love globs so much. I rarely see a photo that does justice to the glory of what I see in the scope; drawings like yours are much closer. Thank you for the step by step. I'll be trying this as soon as the clouds leave.

And I agree about the tracking. I cannot sketch with my little scope because I need to spend time finding the object each time I come back to recalibrate what I've drawn. I lose the "feeling" of the drawing.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: jake47]
      #552767 - 08/10/05 06:55 AM

I will second the
Excellent and very usefull

Also, do take a look at these sketches of globular clusters made by Natko Bajic. He was 16 years of age at that time

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Beri]
      #592151 - 09/08/05 09:25 PM

Hi, I'm new at Cloudynights. This is one of my sketches of a globular. M3 in CVn.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #592195 - 09/08/05 09:56 PM

Wow!! Looks like it's alive.
Welcome to CN, Michael!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Carol L]
      #592549 - 09/09/05 06:44 AM

Thanks, Carol. Long time, no talk!

I've been recovering from some really bad news - my Intes Micro M715 Dx Mak was stolen and I am currently making do with a SkyWatcher 100ED Pro. Not a bad little scope with next to true APO performance in its aperture class for a reasonable price..all the goodies came with it, including a bombproof case. Not until stupendously high powers do I notice any chromatism, and it is quite minor at that. Just split 36 Andromedae at 1 arc second this morning! Optics are good. I'm ready for some nice wide field cluster sketches now!

I like your lunar step by step. Always loved your drawings. They're beautiful and accurate.

Best regards,

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