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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #592774 - 09/09/05 11:15 AM

Beautiful sketch of M3, Michael! Thanks for sharing it and welcome to CloudyNights!

Here is my own version of M3, also from last spring.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #593522 - 09/09/05 09:23 PM

Thanks Michael, I'm looking forward to seeing your sketches!
Sorry about your scope..

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Carol L]
      #609059 - 09/21/05 02:35 AM

Eric,

An excellent sketch of the great globular cluster M13 in Hercules. You have captured the intense star grouping at the center as well as the surrounding star field. I look forward to your future observations.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: CarlosEH]
      #610065 - 09/21/05 06:42 PM

Thanks so much, Carlos! I appreciate your comments, as always.


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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #620611 - 09/29/05 10:02 AM

This is a superb topic and certainly gives excellent advice on sketching globulars. I have had problems myself with these in the past and Eric's tutorial has solved these problems for me.
Previously I used to draw in the background fuzzy area and then stipple over it, being careful to be as accurate as I could be. It was apparent to me that this never worked that well, and Eric has shed a lot of light on the answer.

Thanks Eric, it's much appreciated.

I have not done much sketching myself this summer (too much daylight in June and early July and then some dodgy weather), although I have managed to add some more to my binocular Messier list and I have done some written descriptions.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Faith_J]
      #626325 - 10/03/05 12:36 PM

Thanks, Faith. I hope you have every opportunity to get out under the stars in the months to come!



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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #626793 - 10/03/05 05:51 PM

Thank you Eric. The nights are darker and clearer and I am grabbing as many opportunities that come my way as I can! I have sketched some open clusters recently.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Faith_J]
      #635086 - 10/09/05 12:38 PM

I pretty much follow the same general method sketching globular clusters. Getting the resolved stars accurately drawn isn't easy especially in rich clusters like M5. Many globulars appear to have streams of stars emanating from the core and capturing that effect as accurately as possible helps reproduce the overall appearance realistically. My efforts can be seen here .

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: MichaelH]
      #635826 - 10/10/05 12:24 AM

Very nicely done, Michael...and your webpage is great as well!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #636282 - 10/10/05 11:12 AM

Michael, thank you for sharing your globular star cluster sketches with us. Very nice.

Welcome to Cloudy Nights, BTW...


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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #636345 - 10/10/05 11:43 AM

Thanks for the compliments and the welcome. I don't have a telescope at the moment but hopefully I'll be able to observe soon again and add more sketches.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: MichaelH]
      #636678 - 10/10/05 04:04 PM

Beautiful work Michael and welcome to CN!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: ]
      #780651 - 01/16/06 08:16 PM

Quote:

I've been recovering from some really bad news - my Intes Micro M715 Dx Mak was stolen Michael




I too thank Eric for the excellent, concisely articulate tutorial, and look forward to spring when some worthy subjects will become more easily viewable.

I hate to hear about someone's scope getting stolen. At least we DOB owners will have little problem figuring out who the thief was - check police reports for anyone arrested with a herniated disk ;=)

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #936286 - 05/01/06 01:16 PM

Eric,

I find this approach so cooool. This is simply brilliant. Gonna need to do my glob's all over again.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: rodelaet]
      #936394 - 05/01/06 02:25 PM

Quote:

Eric,

I find this approach so cooool. This is simply brilliant. Gonna need to do my glob's all over again.




That's what happened to me, when I read it. It's interesting to compare the sketches I made before with those after reading his tutorial.

And, of course, any excuse to re-observe a few favorite objects is a good one.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #1115688 - 08/26/06 09:32 PM

Erix,

I actually don't use any circle when I'm sketching in the field. I use a sketching notebook and start my drawings with one star close to the center of the page, then I start drawing others. As I continue to draw stars, I estimate the distance and position of them based on the previous stars I have drawn. I like to ad the FOV circle along with labels digitally after I have scanned the image. I'm still new to sketching the cosmos but so far this method has worked well.

After typing this response I realized the date of the last post in this thread =p... sorry about digging up the dead
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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Archon]
      #1115690 - 08/26/06 09:34 PM

And by the way,

Nice tutorial cildarith!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: cildarith]
      #1796172 - 08/23/07 07:06 PM

Eric,

Thanks for the great article! I am still learning how to sketch at the eyepiece, and this is a great step-by-step of how to draw Globulars.

I have to admit, I have been "practicing" by drawing smaller Open Clusters to learn to get the "feel" of sketching at the eyepiece.

The other day, I though "Hey...I'm gonna try sketching M22!" So there I was, slewing my new 10" Dob. towards this Globular (now mind you, up until this time I had only used my 70mm to view M22). I peered into the eyepiece and:
DANG!! THAT IS A LOT OF STARS!

...I sketched the region around the star Mirphak in Perseus later that night instead.

I will actually give a Globular a try armed with this step-by-step however.
THANKS!!

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: WadeVC]
      #1796380 - 08/23/07 08:50 PM

Eric,

I use the same order of steps to sketch globulars as you described. Of course, I don't have your skill level. And I also have not done but a few. Wonderful sketch of M-13.
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Your globular sketches are excellent.

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Re: Sketching Globs new [Re: Erix]
      #3050394 - 04/18/09 05:50 AM

Thanks for the advice, Erik. I had some success with a pointillist style for landscapes in ink. Thousands of dots. I see your stippling as the same technique in monochrome, an effective way to blend areas of variable contrast. I am so inspired by this site!
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