Thanks Mark, You do some really nice work. I want to get out and start really doing some serious sketching. I've been trying white pencils on black paper, but I don't like the way the white pencil feathers out it's too waxy. So I thought, using a regular HB pencil on white paper.I am very anal about "not" using blending stubs,this is just me, I don't think they should be used. I just don't like them. Maybe photoshop to turn the image into a neg. Hope I don't get alot of flak about being anti-stub, ha ha.