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Quote: In a recent thread, I could not recall how the Oberwerk 20x80 Standard measures here. And for good reason. To date, I can't find any post on this, not even by our resident expert extraordinaire Ed Z. (It's likely that if someone did measure and report on the Oberwerk 20x80 Standard, it would just be the same old, same old.) But after some research and questions, I ordered the Oberwerk 20x80 Standard as a second 20x80 in February. It outperforms my Celestron Skymaster 20x80. (BTW, in my research and questions, I ruled out Parks and Vixen 20x80s based upon mixed reviews.) Quote: Absitively, posolutely! So, I'm very happy with both the Oberwerk 20x80 Standard and Garrett Optical 15x70 Signature. Great stuff for not a lot of money. Clear Skies! Todd |