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Not all observers browse cloudynights forums and use the smileyman guys. What you see is what you get ![]() Besides, you need a widefield telescope to see this well, since the size's something like over 60'. 7 star asterims in milkyway with over 1 deg in size, that's why it is not well known. The real smileyface, of course, is around Mirfak in Perseus. Cheers, Jake |